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^ I would really recommend against twiddling with any of these settings.
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What does update 1118 do ? What is recommended before updating ?
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What does update 1118 do ? What is recommended before updating ?

I haven't seen any difference between 1117 and 1118. It probably only updates the Smart Hub. I don't use smart hub at all. The only time I connect my tv to the internet is for updates.
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Sorry for the dumb question, but what's the difference between 16:9 and screen fit?

Do these settings treat aspect ratios other than 16:9 (ie. 4:3 or 2.15:1) differently.

Which one is recommended?

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Sorry for the dumb question, but what's the difference between 16:9 and screen fit?

Do these settings treat aspect ratios other than 16:9 (ie. 4:3 or 2.15:1) differently.

Which one is recommended?

Screen Fit: Displays the full image without any cutoff. In other words, exactly the way it was intended to be displayed. 16:9 actually slightly zooms the picture. I always use Screen Fit for Blu Ray. 16:9 for watching tv so the pixel shift protection kicks in to help prevent IR.
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He's NOT joking and there have been other comments regarding these much earlier in either this or the other "owners" thread. I see it also but it's the AR filter character of the display. I didn't notice it either until it was pointed out because when I'm in that room the display is generally on. I do believe the light from the windows makes the AR visible and I just assumed I hadn't noticed previously just because of time of day (position of sun) or if it's extremely overcast or not. I believe it's something that once you realize "what it is" it's very easy to get beyond.

No one else has mentioned it when in the room.

I have a large arched window with only a 3% cover - I' struggling with maybe moving the display to eliminate the reflection of the window which admitently isn't terrible and by changing the seating I can nearly eliminate.

So the horizontal lines are normal than? I was watching a bit of the Olympic games and I've noticed those horizontal lines on white(snow) and blue(sky) backgrounds. Does anyone else notice this? I am sitting at least 12 feet back.
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So the horizontal lines are normal than? I was watching a bit of the Olympic games and I've noticed those horizontal lines on white(snow) and blue(sky) backgrounds. Does anyone else notice this? I am sitting at least 12 feet back.

A/R filters have a tendency to do that. Similar to the DSE effect. My Pioneer does that, but the lines are vertical when scanning side to side on a bright screen. My former Sharp LED did the same thing when panning side to side. Samsung's filter is that way so the light from above the tv, or below the tv does not wash out the image in a bright room. It's a form of defraction. I can occasionally see those lines on a white brackground, but i will take that over the bad DSE effect when panning side to side as so many other tv's have. Watching hockey is so much more enjoyable on the Samsung than other tv's I have owned. If you own a pair of glasses with A/R coating, if you rotate the lens just right into a bright light, you can see rainbowing, etc.
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I've had my pn64f 8500 for about 2 weeks and last night I noticed a black line running from one on the screen to the other side. It was about a fourth of the way down the screen from the top of the screen. After about 2-3 minutes it went away. Today it did the same thing and went away.

Is this a sign that this set is defective? Is there a fix for this? Should I take it back?

Any info on this will greatl appreciated. Thanks
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I've had my pn64f 8500 for about 2 weeks and last night I noticed a black line running from one on the screen to the other side. It was about a fourth of the way down the screen from the top of the screen. After about 2-3 minutes it went away. Today it did the same thing and went away.

Is this a sign that this set is defective? Is there a fix for this? Should I take it back?

Any info on this will greatl appreciated. Thanks

I believe I'd make an attempt to snapshot it and I'd do a firmware update with all of the HDMI connections disconnected, power it off after the update is completed which I believe it might do any way and then connect all of the HDMI stuff and repower the display.

What firmware do you have presently? How do you supply the material to the display? Through a receiver, RF (OTA), a cable box or maybe multiple sources? You seem very anxious for an excuse to return.

Do you know how to check the firmware that the display is using now?
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Thanks again, wxman.

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That for the info. I really like this tv. It has 1112 fw on it. I'm running directv using hdmi, running Oppo using hdmi,
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We just received our 60" 8500 television set.  We upgraded to the 20th century and purchased a Sony 3D Blue Ray, and Sony STR-DN840 audio receiver at the same time.  We also have a Direct TV DVR (which we will probably upgrade to a Genie in next few months.  We also have a "free" Samsung sound bar which we received as a deal when we purchased the TV.  I've got some questions on set up that I'm hoping someone can help with!  We are both novices at this.... 

 

Our current set up is HDMI cables from the Direct TV box and blue ray player into the receiver.  We then have the HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV using the ARC outlets on both components.  We have been successful at switching between using the receiver when we want surround sound and using soundshare and the soundbar for "normal" tv watching.  When we turn on soundshare, the receiver automatically sets itself to mute.  What has not worked so well is that the Sony receiver does not default to the SATV/CATV which means every time we watch TV we have to locate the receiver remote and change the input.  I have also been unable to program the Samsung remote as a universal remote for any of the other remotes.  I also haven't been able to set the Samsung remote to be able to control the direct tv receiver using the STB feature (this worked when I originally set up the TV and was connecting the components through the television first).

 

I would greatly appreciate any insight and help with this so that I don't need to set up another coffee table just to hold all our remote controls!

 

Also-  Any suggestions for things we should be doing for initial set up activities would also be appreciated!  Thanks!

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That for the info. I really like this tv. It has 1112 fw on it. I'm running directv using hdmi, running Oppo using hdmi,
wow unplug all hdmi cords in tv except ethernet and do update it's 1118 now.....Im sure others will comment on what else to dao after update good luck smile.gif

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does anyone know what screws you need for the mount? My existing mount will work, but I can't remember where I put all the screws that came with it. So what I need to know what size screws does the samsung use? i am getting the 60" f8500. I doubt the 64" is any different though.


completely unrelated. I am assuming all the F8500s are the same color? that gun metal type color right? There isn't a silver and a black one?
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Thanks for the info. I have read in here that sometimes upgrading the firmware degrades the picture. What firmware are you running?
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Thanks for the info. I have read in here that sometimes upgrading the firmware degrades the picture. What firmware are you running?
1118 and its fine

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Black Optimizer Settings.

Hello all, which black optimizer setting gives the deepest black? Thanks for any info.
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Well I have read a few interviews & Tech. bits re. the 2014 plasmas from samsung and I am coming to the conclusion that beings that HDMI 2 chipsets will be released sometime in march, that could be the reason why Samsung decided to release their plasmas around mid year.
Would love to see the 2014 P?XXH7500 with newest F8500 panel, HDMI 2.0 and USB 3.0, that would be killler, especially if they leave all the extras off like camera etc., it would be the ultimate Plasma from Samsung yet.
We will have to wait and see what happens.........
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Screen Fit: Displays the full image without any cutoff. In other words, exactly the way it was intended to be displayed. 16:9 actually slightly zooms the picture. I always use Screen Fit for Blu Ray. 16:9 for watching tv so the pixel shift protection kicks in to help prevent IR.

 

My calibrator recommended screen fit.  You supposedly lose a great deal of sharpness when using 16x9.

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I am in Thailand a purchased the Samsung PN64F8500 two weeks ago. I know the experts always suggest watching the TV in movie mode. I have tried to do that and cannot. I am using the standard mode and tweaked the settings a little and much prefer that setting over the movie setting. I love the blu ray setting the the TV comes with and made only a few minor changes in the settings. The movie setting seems so washed out and dark to me after having a Samsung 60 inch 8000 LED. Any one else out there using the standard setting?
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I am in Thailand a purchased the Samsung PN64F8500 two weeks ago. I know the experts always suggest watching the TV in movie mode. I have tried to do that and cannot. I am using the standard mode and tweaked the settings a little and much prefer that setting over the movie setting. I love the blu ray setting the the TV comes with and made only a few minor changes in the settings. The movie setting seems so washed out and dark to me after having a Samsung 60 inch 8000 LED. Any one else out there using the standard setting?

Have you tried switching to Warm1 instead of Warm2 in movie mode? You might find that more pleasing.
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does anyone know what screws you need for the mount? My existing mount will work, but I can't remember where I put all the screws that came with it. So what I need to know what size screws does the samsung use? i am getting the 60" f8500. I doubt the 64" is any different though.


completely unrelated. I am assuming all the F8500s are the same color? that gun metal type color right? There isn't a silver and a black one?

RE - that gun metal type color
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RE - what size screws does the samsung use
- if there is any AV store or FS or BB near you - you can spec them out, as they all should sell VESA mounts & then you could match them exactly with hardware screws, washers etc
- depending on your mount, you may need plastic/rubber spacers to use with screws
- not too long of screws eh!!

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My calibrator recommended screen fit.  You supposedly lose a great deal of sharpness when using 16x9.

I also do notice the minute stretching or snap in when toggling between the two
Screen Fit does snap it in a bit & 16:9 stretches it in
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I also do notice the minute stretching or snap in when toggling between the two
Screen Fit does snap it in a bit & 16:9 stretches it in
I can see how that would affect sharpness
I think it's all in the processing and re-processing.

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does anyone know what screws you need for the mount? My existing mount will work, but I can't remember where I put all the screws that came with it. So what I need to know what size screws does the samsung use? i am getting the 60" f8500. I doubt the 64" is any different though.


completely unrelated. I am assuming all the F8500s are the same color? that gun metal type color right? There isn't a silver and a black one?

There is "no hardware" supplied by Samsung for attachment to a wall mount. The threaded mount on the display is M8 X 1.25 and I used studs rather than bolts to keep the mount from being flush against the display. A dimension of 16 - 18mm from tip of thread to bolt head should accomplish the attachment BUT that of course could change because of the mount your going to use.
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I am in Thailand a purchased the Samsung PN64F8500 two weeks ago. I know the experts always suggest watching the TV in movie mode. I have tried to do that and cannot. I am using the standard mode and tweaked the settings a little and much prefer that setting over the movie setting. I love the blu ray setting the the TV comes with and made only a few minor changes in the settings. The movie setting seems so washed out and dark to me after having a Samsung 60 inch 8000 LED. Any one else out there using the standard setting?

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Have you tried switching to Warm1 instead of Warm2 in movie mode? You might find that more pleasing.

I just got a 60F8500, and I also prefer the Standard mode for watching TV. I haven't watched any blu-rays yet, but when I do, I'll try both modes. How does one switch between Warm 1 and Warm 2? I don't recall seeing those options in any of the menus I've accessed so far.
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I did a basic calibration with the Spears & Munsil v2 disc on my new 64F8500. When it came time to choose the color space, I ended up choosing Warm1, rather than Warm2, contrary to many of the recommendations here. Warm2 looked a little yellow, while Warm1 looked more neutral.

This TV has the best picture I've ever seen. I'm very pleased with my purchase! biggrin.gif

I've got a Darbee DVP-5000 on the way, but I might not put it in the chain right away. I think I want to take the time to get accustomed to this display, before adding the Darbee, so that I can really tell what difference it makes.

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^ Warm2 only really comes into its own when you calibrate with a meter.
By eye Warm1 makes more sense although it is a little too blue.
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I have a Thin Black bar across screen maybe a third of the way up. Is this the firm ware issue? Can I update to 1118 with the tv off? I don't want a freaking menu burnt into the screen of my TV.

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Call Samsung / supplier. You have a hardware problem. Updating firmware won't fix it.
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