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Hey guys ....After having my set calibrated, I have noticed some banding issues and a very loud buzz....

Really upset. ..spending money on calibration..and now having issues....

Looks like I will be returning it

Just pissed. ....money that I spent. ....

Does anyone have and idea how to pack up set for shipping back??

It's been a while 3 weeks....Any advice would help


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I'd be more concerned at 'core temps' where the thing shouldn't get too hot. The panel temp (mute - 7- 3 - 7 - enter) menu would be a good indicator of what's going on.

I have been watching my 64F8500 for about a week with movie mode and default picture settings. The Panel Temperature is 40 °C. Is this operating temperature safe for the panel? Should I make adjustments to the picture settings? Should I engage the Eco Sensor? Will the operational temperature go down as the phosphors age?
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I generally pay no attention to the info bar when powering up but just a while ago on power up there was the usual info screen and some sort of a darker info bar that mentioned something about after March 26 you will no longer be able to access apps .........................

I have no idea what the rest of the info was - no idea. I did nothing but the standard power up so I'd think everyone should be seeing the same info. It was quite narrow and it looked like there was an OK to acknowledge but it disappeared on it's own.

MENU > SMART FEATURES > NOTIFICATIONS should get you the message

Paid apps will no longer be available via Samsung Apps March 26th - Sorry!
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On the F8500 whenever the input signal changes (e.g. from 100p60 to 1080p24) a dark grey notification drops down from the top of the screen to notify the user of the change.

Does anyone know how to disable that notification?

You can't.

Please go to the bugs thread and start with this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1515070/official-samsung-pnxxf8500-bugs-thread/60#post_24468309

You may want to read the first 3 pages of that thread, but the above will give you the gist.
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I have been watching my 64F8500 for about a week with movie mode and default picture settings. The Panel Temperature is 40 °C. Is this operating temperature safe for the panel? Should I make adjustments to the picture settings? Should I engage the Eco Sensor? Will the operational temperature go down as the phosphors age?

Dont worry about that. Its normal. When I first got mine, the panel temperature was running around 40 to 42C. After 2 months of ownership, it is now around 36C.
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^ I 'think' going into Smart Features / Notifications / Delete all removes the flag for good.
I just tried so hopefully will not re-appear. Time will tell.

Well sad to report this didn't work. The message returned.
I don't use anything on the TV that requires IP (unless I Skype) so I'm clearing the annoying message and pulling the ethernet cable until the date passes.
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Thanks for the input folks. I just used washers that were thick enough to overcome the thickness of the screw head as I didn't want to use a full spacer from the kit.

I will say that I am totally happy with the Kanto PDX650 wall mount from Costco. It's very solid (two double arms) and I got a very good price on it. It is suitable for 32-70 inch models and mounts VESA up to 400x600. The hardware kit that comes with it is the most amazing I've ever seen.

I just watched a little bit of full screen golf before resuming the burn-in and I've got to say the F8500 is very good looking straight out of the box. Perhaps a little bright but very sharp and I don't think I have a dead or stuck pixel or buzzing, at least not yet. I'm thinking I made a good choice. Of course I'm coming from a Panasonic 480p unit I purchased in early 2003 for more than three times the cost of this one and it didn't have a stand, tuner or speakers. Still, it looks good to this day with 13,0000 hours, just lower resolution.

I try some of the settings from that thread after I get the remote programmed.

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So, my entertainment center isn't as wide as the PN64F8500. It's right at 54" and the tv is a little over 58". So, 2"s will be over on both sides. Will this cause the tv to be wobbly?

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Hey guys ....After having my set calibrated, I have noticed some banding issues and a very loud buzz....

Really upset. ..spending money on calibration..and now having issues....

Looks like I will be returning it

Just pissed. ....money that I spent. ....

Does anyone have and idea how to pack up set for shipping back??

It's been a while 3 weeks....Any advice would help


Thanks

Return it and keep the ZT you just bought you will see they are worlds apart
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So, my entertainment center isn't as wide as the PN64F8500. It's right at 54" and the tv is a little over 58". So, 2"s will be over on both sides. Will this cause the tv to be wobbly?
I have 648500 and it hangs over like that and no problems...
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Still doing burn in and checked the panel temperature using Mute - 7- 3 - 7 - Enter.

Temperature 52 degrees and I'm assuming celsius. So that's 125 degrees Fahrenheit. Should I worry and is there anything I can do to lower the temp other than fans?
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So, my entertainment center isn't as wide as the PN64F8500. It's right at 54" and the tv is a little over 58". So, 2"s will be over on both sides. Will this cause the tv to be wobbly?

As mentioned previously in this Forum, Full Support is needed. TV should Not be supported on the Front and Back Curved bars.
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I just received my PN51F8500 and am in the middle of the 100+ hour burn in using the disk from the burn in thread. In the meantime I'm trying to figure where precisely to locate my wall mount which is a full motion model - Kanto PDX650 from Costco.

When attaching the bracket arms (vertical bars) to the back of the set I noticed there is a small screw below each of the VESA screw holes. Because of these screw heads the bracket arms will not sit flush against the back of the set, but will be raised slightly off the back. The location of the screws suggest that they might be holding the VESA screw mounts in place.

My question is, has anyone mounted one of these F8500 units and did you leave the screws on the back (and use washers as a spacer) or did you remove them to get a flush mount which seems risky to me. My gut tells me to leave the small screws in place. Thanks for any help or suggestions.

I also used washers as spacers - works great - use lock washers also

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Still doing burn in and checked the panel temperature using Mute - 7- 3 - 7 - Enter.

Temperature 52 degrees and I'm assuming celsius. So that's 125 degrees Fahrenheit. Should I worry and is there anything I can do to lower the temp other than fans?

52 is Celsius

That temp is pretty good, especially when running slides continuously
You could put a fan a ways away gently blowing air UP from the bottom vents forcing air up towards the top - if it really bugs you
I think ~32 C is as low as you should go though. That's around the temp a PC MB runs optimally

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As mentioned previously in this Forum, Full Support is needed. TV should Not be supported on the Front and Back Curved bars.

Thanks. I found the original post that stated that most of the support is on the outer edges. Back to the drawing board I guess.

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Thanks. I found the original post that stated that most of the support is on the outer edges. Back to the drawing board I guess.

The stand I have I purchased at IKEA, its like 70 inches wide(room for a 75inch OLED in a couple years) and fully customizable. If you have a store near you, I think its worth a look.

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Actually after lowering the cell light to 15 (was 18 out of box, haven't calibrated yet) and watching regular TV the temperature dropped to 44 degrees. Any sense what is a tolerable temperature for long term use? 45C doesn't sound horribly high compared to a computer, but I really haven't got a feel for it. Many thanks for your thoughts.
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^ 45C for the panel temp is really not very hot.
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The stand I have I purchased at IKEA, its like 70 inches wide(room for a 75inch OLED in a couple years) and fully customizable. If you have a store near you, I think its worth a look.

Thanks. I will have to check it out.

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Thanks. I will have to check it out.
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Hey guys ....After having my set calibrated, I have noticed some banding issues and a very loud buzz....
That is odd, you would have thought you would have noticed that before ?
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Actually after lowering the cell light to 15 (was 18 out of box, haven't calibrated yet) and watching regular TV the temperature dropped to 44 degrees. Any sense what is a tolerable temperature for long term use? 45C doesn't sound horribly high compared to a computer, but I really haven't got a feel for it. Many thanks for your thoughts.
My STRONG recommendation is that the panel temp not exceed 40C during breakin. That's based on Samsung recommendations. Others will tell you more is OK but I recommed that you belive Samsung, not AVS members. Google coolf8500 or similar and reach your own conclusions
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My STRONG recommendation is that the panel temp not exceed 40C during breakin. That's based on Samsung recommendations. Others will tell you more is OK but I recommed that you belive Samsung, not AVS members. Google coolf8500 or similar and reach your own conclusions
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Other than putting the thing in the fridge whilst running break in or afterwards for that matter you're going to be hard pressed to keep the panel below 40C. Just being on for two hours with full black at 10 cell got mine to 38C when I first bought it. Other factors include ambient temp and TV location (in a cab, group of components directly underneath etc.).

Of course you're welcome to build something like the Starship Enterprise fan cluster across the top of your set to keep it below 40C but most do not and their TV works just fine.
If going over 40C were a major problem for the panel this thread would be full of reports about it which it isn't.
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So, my entertainment center isn't as wide as the PN64F8500. It's right at 54" and the tv is a little over 58". So, 2"s will be over on both sides. Will this cause the tv to be wobbly?

The brackets that actually attach to the chassis of the display for a 64" are 46" on center, there are six adhesive strips in the accessory package that can be used in the base channels to accomplish what you'd like to do and I believe I might purchase maybe a similar product and increase the length in the four points that would be required. Lengths similar to those on the bars in the second image.

The poster in #4871 mentions no issues and I believe with proper planning it can be accomplished with no issues.

I posted this image a couple months ago and you can see where they need to be applied. If you purchased much thinner product you could actually compliment the support by using center portion between the bars.



Is there enough product supplied with the accessory package? Probably. If it were me I'd buy more and maybe just a bit denser product if I could.



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Guys,

I may be moving soon. What's the best way to move the F8500. I couldn't pinpoint instructions in the manual (the manual talks about assembling, not disassembling). Is there a specific way to get the panel off the base? Or is it better to ship it with the base in place?

Maybe Chris from Cleveland Plasma can also comment?

Thanks for any input.
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^ I take it you don't have the box any more?

You should never transport it off've vertical. they're not designed to hold the weight in anything but a vertical position.

Keeping it vertical on the stand with some strapping in a van with a person holding it would help you do this if you don't have the box.
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Guys,

I may be moving soon. What's the best way to move the F8500. I couldn't pinpoint instructions in the manual (the manual talks about assembling, not disassembling). Is there a specific way to get the panel off the base? Or is it better to ship it with the base in place?

Maybe Chris from Cleveland Plasma can also comment?

Thanks for any input.
if you have a Uhaul dealer near i hear they have flatpanel moving boxes,But stand need to come off...Good luck smile.gif
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^ I take it you don't have the box any more?

You should never transport it off've vertical. they're not designed to hold the weight in anything but a vertical position.

Keeping it vertical on the stand with some strapping in a van with a person holding it would help you do this if you don't have the box.

Yea, I don't have the box anymore. The manual said not to try and lift the panel with the stand in place. So not sure how safe it would be to lift the whole thing with the base in place. The panel is wobbly, so I'd think the chances of it falling over are high... unless we have a third person holding the panel while two people lift the whole thing via the sides and the base?
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