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Old 07-13-2014, 09:56 AM
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As far as I know there are no other "stands" available only the one that comes with the unit. People have used both the stand and wall minted however and been happy. Most decide to wall mount since the stand is wider than usual
I decided to build my own "stand". However, I'm not talking replacing the wide somewhat oddly shaped piece of metal the TV attaches to. I'm talking about the piece of furniture the TV and goofy shaped metal stand sit on. Unfortunately, it has been coming along more slowly than I had hoped. If all goes well I can start the finishing process with dye and stain today and then move onto the poly.
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Hey ppl,

I had an unfortunate thing happend last night...
My girls f***ing cat scratched the panel of my 64" F8500. Im sure it hurts for you guys reading that so you can imagine my feelings.
I cant notice it even when i know it but there is quite a few scratches that i see good when the set is off.

Can i use some antiscratch thing do you think?
My homeinsurance covers it but i dont feel like thinking about the time it can take for them to replace the panel

Approciate answers, thanks guys.
I had the same thing happen back in 08 with a Panasonic plasma. Only from a doggie. My advice from experience. No matter what you try, it'll only make it worse. Also, I couldn't see my scratch with the TV on either. I promise it gets easier to accept with time. LOL.
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well guys i spent the last few months saving up for the 64F8500 and yesterday i pulled the trigger on it!!! its here and its quite a amazing display, I'm coming from a pn63b5500 (2009) now begins the break in period
I had one of those, it was a great set !!
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48 degrees C

My 64F8500 shut off by itself today, while we were watching a cable TV show.It didn't turn back on the first time I tried, but it did turn on the second time I tried. Been stable ever since.Going into the 737 menu, it is consistently reporting 48C as the temperature.I'm taking it that 48C is bad?And I should install one of those Thermaltake USB fans from Amazon, to bring these temps down to something more acceptable?
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My 64F8500 shut off by itself today, while we were watching a cable TV show.It didn't turn back on the first time I tried, but it did turn on the second time I tried. Been stable ever since.Going into the 737 menu, it is consistently reporting 48C as the temperature.I'm taking it that 48C is bad?And I should install one of those Thermaltake USB fans from Amazon, to bring these temps down to something more acceptable?
48C is hot. Do you have enough space between the wall and your tv? I have that fan on the back of my tv, and it never gets above 40C, even with a cell light of 20.
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I have the redmere cables and they work great. Very thin and flexible.
Thanks for the good feedback, I think I will order a set and try them out.
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^^ If you want to keep your existing hdmi cables, you can buy these adapters from Monoprice. I have them. They work great.
Monoprice HDMI Port Saver - M to Female - 270 degrees.
Thanks for this idea, I think the distance would be too small to my wall and the same clearance problem may happen. I may use this adapter on a different setup that has clearance issues though, now that I know about it.
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My 64F8500 shut off by itself today, while we were watching a cable TV show.It didn't turn back on the first time I tried, but it did turn on the second time I tried. Been stable ever since.Going into the 737 menu, it is consistently reporting 48C as the temperature.I'm taking it that 48C is bad?And I should install one of those Thermaltake USB fans from Amazon, to bring these temps down to something more acceptable?
I believe mine runs right around 40-42C. cell light 20, but I have eco turned to low.


I also have no idea what is acceptable though. I mean, I was fiddling with my video card parameters the other day cause I wasn't sure if it getting up around 45C was too hot(I have the fan set to lower levels to remain quieter) and then other ppl online were saying stuff like 'as long as it stays below 80C you should be fine', haha.
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about 6 weeks ago we had a hot spell here and my tv a 51 inch version got in the very high 49 C temps.
It shut down i could not get it to restart. I had to do a FACTORY RESET with all cables removed except the power cable from the 220v and resetup the whole thing, had the tv about 2 weeks at that time.
Now all is fine I did install 2x 120mm 5volt USB fans with some thin foam with hole cut in it between the fans and the metal TV back panel to keep the back panel from aplifying the sound from the fans.
All works great now 6 weeks later still no problems and the tv hardly ever goes above 39 C.

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Remember that panel temperature is not the temperature of the boards behind the panel. It's likely a lot hotter where the boards are. The back panel behind tv near the hdmi ports, is definitely a lot hotter than the panel itself. Cooling this area reduces both the panel temperature and the area on the back of tv.
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Remember that panel temperature is not the temperature of the boards behind the panel. It's likely a lot hotter where the boards are. The back panel behind tv near the hdmi ports, is definitely a lot hotter than the panel itself. Cooling this area reduces both the panel temperature and the area on the back of tv.
You are so right !!, most likely the actual component temperature will reach somewhere near 70 or 75 C when the air temp coming out of the top is circa 50C.
Also I read somewhere the benefit of cooling is quite good due to longer lasting of the cooled components.
I believe for every 10 degrees cooler the component runs the expected lifetime of the component doubles.
So this could then be construed to be for the whole circuit board being cooled, so in essence you lengthen the lifetime of the TV's usefullness.

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48C is hot. Do you have enough space between the wall and your tv? I have that fan on the back of my tv, and it never gets above 40C, even with a cell light of 20.

Indeed, I have something like 15" between the back of the TV and the wall. It's on a fully articulated wall mount. And, I believe that I am running with cell light 17, contrast 94.

I've gone ahead and ordered one of those fans from Amazon. I hope one is enough.

Is there one "best place" to position the fan, or is anywhere near the HDMI connections OK?

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Indeed, I have something like 15" between the back of the TV and the wall. It's on a fully articulated wall mount. And, I believe that I am running with cell light 17, contrast 94.

I've gone ahead and ordered one of those fans from Amazon. I hope one is enough.

Is there one "best place" to position the fan, or is anywhere near the HDMI connections OK?
If you stand behind the tv upper right hand corner is the best place. That is also the hottest spot on the rear of the TV.

I personally placed 2 of them one on the left AND one on the right.


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Does any of you know where the on board temperature sensor in the TV is? I doubt they've attached a thermistor/thermocouple to the glass panel.
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Does any of you know where the on board temperature sensor in the TV is? I doubt they've attached a thermistor/thermocouple to the glass panel.
No idea where the temp sensor is located, you need a Service manual to find out, and as far as I know there have not
been any fortunate people who have found a service manual for the f8500 yet.

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Are you guys getting 2014 build dates on models recently purchased?
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Are you guys getting 2014 build dates on models recently purchased?

I would like to know this as well.

Is there a starting seriel # outside the box that will let you know if its a 2014 build?

I have my eye on a new 60" F8500 or a used 60 VT60 from a private seller for $1700-2000 but I kind of hate buying second hand.
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Are you guys getting 2014 build dates on models recently purchased?
June 2013 here
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June 2013 here
When did you buy yours?
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Are you guys getting 2014 build dates on models recently purchased?
May 2014 date on mine that I purchased in about 2 weeks ago from Paul's.
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Is there a starting seriel # outside the box that will let you know if its a 2014 build?
There is a sticker on the back of the unit with a manufacturing date on it. I'm not sure what's on the outside of the box. I didn't look at it that closely.
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May 2014 date on mine that I purchased in about 2 weeks ago from Paul's.

Good to hear. I just ordered a 51" from BB. I would just hope whatever is shipped is a 2014 build.

We'll see what their inventory is.
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No idea where the temp sensor is located, you need a Service manual to find out, and as far as I know there have not
been any fortunate people who have found a service manual for the f8500 yet.

Rob
Apparently, Service Manuals are going the way of the dodo bird. Manufacturer's are releasing only what the service depot needs for the repairs, diagrams or instructions specific to the repair. Unfortunately, there's a whole crop of scammers trying to take your money for `so called service manuals' online!
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48C is hot. Do you have enough space between the wall and your tv? I have that fan on the back of my tv, and it never gets above 40C, even with a cell light of 20.
I decided to check the panel temperature tonight. The tv has been on for about 5 hours. Cell light 20. Panel temperature was 36C. The fan makes a big difference. I also have about 1300 hours on tv, so maybe it runs a bit cooler because of the panel age too.
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When did you buy yours?
at a Brick n mortar store here in Nashville 5 days ago , it had been in their warehouse I'm sure
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Are you guys getting 2014 build dates on models recently purchased?
I got a September 2013 from Best Buy a couple of months ago.
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My 60" delivered from Sears 3 weeks ago has a May 2014 build.
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New firmware version

FYI - Just got my 64" F8500 yesterday and noticed that it came with firmware 1200 out of the box. A search of this thread didn't turn up anything, so I'm assuming it's new.
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FYI - Just got my 64" F8500 yesterday and noticed that it came with firmware 1200 out of the box. A search of this thread didn't turn up anything, so I'm assuming it's new.

1200? Are you sure you didn't mean 1120?
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