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For giggles ask some questions you know the answer to and see what he says. I suspect you'll find he's not that knowledgeable.
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Screw it, I think I'll buy this SOB tomorrow.

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Here's a picture.. I'm sure you can tell right away, which one has the darker blacks..
well it's obvious which one is brighter overall. but does look like the f8500 might have brighter blacks as well.


I think a picture of a dark scene would be interesting though. that should really show the difference.


I do enjoy a good comparison photo though. this was my fav when I got the f8500(the one on top obviously)


even overexposed the blacks were impressive



and a more realistic exposure:

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Here's a picture.. I'm sure you can tell right away, which one has the darker blacks..
The top one appears to be crushing blacks. Notice the lapels on the women. Top one, you can barely see, the bottom one, it's obvious to see. Skin tone on bottom looks more realistic, while top looks orange. Something seems off with the top photo. That one is obvious. She is a red head, and red heads have extremely fair complexion. Again, quite obvious.

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[quote=fierce_gt;26775041]well it's obvious which one is brighter overall. but does look like the f8500 might have brighter blacks as well.


I think a picture of a dark scene would be interesting though. that should really show the difference.


I do enjoy a good comparison photo though. this was my fav when I got the f8500(the one on top obviously)
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I will take a few more pictures of mostly dark scenes, but do you have some really good calibration settings that are any better than cnets? I have never found their settings to be particularly good. lol


eThe top one appears to be crushing blacks. Notice the lapels on the women. Top one, you can barely see, the bottom one, it's obvious to see. Skin tone on bottom looks more realistic, while top looks orange. Something seems off with the top photo. That one is obvious. She is a red head, and red heads have extremely fair complexion. Again, quite obvious.
I think i had the GT50 set to "warm 2", which was causing that, i believe, i normally keep it on warm 1 or less.. I;m assuming that the phrase "crushing blacks" means that all the detail within the black image are gone? Yes, i noticed that you can see more detail in the f8500's brighter blacks then the gt50's darker ones, but even with that occurring, it still kind of looks better. lol.. Any great picture settings would greatly be appreciated,, just so i can do a few more final comparisons between the 2 sets to see whether or not i keep the f8500..

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well it's obvious which one is brighter overall. but does look like the f8500 might have brighter blacks as well.


I think a picture of a dark scene would be interesting though. that should really show the difference.


I do enjoy a good comparison photo though. this was my fav when I got the f8500(the one on top obviously)

I think i had the GT50 set to "warm 2", which was causing that, i believe, i normally keep it on warm 1 or less.. I;m assuming that the phrase "crushing blacks" means that all the detail within the black image are gone? Yes, i noticed that you can see more detail in the f8500's brighter blacks then the gt50's darker ones, but even with that occurring, it still kind of looks better. lol.. Any great picture settings would greatly be appreciated,, just so i can do a few more final comparisons between the 2 sets to see whether or not i keep the f8500..
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound arrogant like I did in my post. Both pics are very good. I would take either one over an LED.

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Any great picture settings would greatly be appreciated,, just so i can do a few more final comparisons between the 2 sets to see whether or not i keep the f8500..
If you're using CNET's calibration settings for your 8500, double check the 10p white balance setting. The calibrator meant to turn it "OFF". In his settings list, it shows "ON". Make sure yours is "off".
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I think i had the GT50 set to "warm 2", which was causing that, i believe, i normally keep it on warm 1 or less.. I;m assuming that the phrase "crushing blacks" means that all the detail within the black image are gone? Yes, i noticed that you can see more detail in the f8500's brighter blacks then the gt50's darker ones, but even with that occurring, it still kind of looks better. lol.. Any great picture settings would greatly be appreciated,, just so i can do a few more final comparisons between the 2 sets to see whether or not i keep the f8500..
Taking a look at your picture, I agree with the others, your GT50 looks like it is "off" by crushing the blacks. This means that you are losing all of the detail which you do see (details) in the F8500.. You can get the same effect by turning on "black detail" for the F8500, but again you'll begin to lose details in the black areas, and this is generally looked at as a "no no". What it comes down to is finding a picture that you're happy with, which doesn't necessarily mean an accurate one. There is an F8500 settings thread that can be found here (F8500 Recommended Settings Thread.....) This is the thread where more than a few of the owners have posted what they are using. In the end though you may just need to adjust to something that makes you happy, which may mean setting something that is totally different than what others have.
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Just got my F8500 delivered today

Are there any settings I need to adjust for the first 200 hours or so? I Have it in standard right now with cell light and contrast turned down? I do have a question about using the smart remote. I do not want the smart remote controlling my Dish Hopper box, is there away where I could stop this from happening? I was thinking if I didn't hook the IR Blaster up then it wouldn't control it, but it does. Is there a way to check on the number of hours you have on the set?
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So to be clear - the f8500 is the set on top, and the GT bottom?

To me, the top set is clearly better - deeper blacks, higher contrast, and better colors.



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well it's obvious which one is brighter overall. but does look like the f8500 might have brighter blacks as well.


I think a picture of a dark scene would be interesting though. that should really show the difference.


I do enjoy a good comparison photo though. this was my fav when I got the f8500(the one on top obviously)


even overexposed the blacks were impressive



and a more realistic exposure:
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So to be clear - the f8500 is the set on top, and the GT bottom?

To me, the top set is clearly better - deeper blacks, higher contrast, and better colors.
no, I've never had a gt50, that was the other poster. this was a comparison shot of the f8500 on day one, no calibration set to 'movie' default and my older Samsung b530 that was 'calibrated' as best I could.


there's no way the b530 ever stood a chance, but I liked the shot because it validated my decision to buy the f8500 and that I wasn't crazy for thinking my old plasma had terrible black levels.
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So I spoke a bit too soon about no buzzing at all. When I open the TV's browser and the screen goes to white I can hear a medium buzz, But as soon as I got to a web page the buzzing ceases, and it's still the only audible buzz I've encountered.

I'm glad it only happens in that one particular instance. If that buzzing was constant it could get annoying. Do some people's 8500 sets buzz that much all of the time? That would suck.

As far as screen flickering goes - I can't detect anything hat even resembles anything like that. But then again, I've had another plasma for a few years and it's never bothered me in any way so maybe I can't see it.
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