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The F8500 is better than the VT30 hands down. There isn't a contest there.

Waaayyyyy brighter even if the recent firmware reduced brightness down to 50 ftl. The VT30 barely gets past 30 ftl.

Low black levels even when they float on the f8500 ( you'd be hard pressed to notice since they change when apl rises ) 0.002 to 0.004 ftl.

VT30 has rising blacks...and severe red push

Probably more accurate colour

Wayyyyy better light filter ( blacks will look inky black in bright rooms and still dark in low light rooms )

The F8500 is a no brainer. Buy it
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Thanks for the response. Overall brightness isn't a big concern for me - my VT30 is calibrated at 40 fl day mode and 35 fl night mode and blacks measure at .0045 mll - no rising blacks. I would like the better daytime filter so blacks would hold up, but the one thing holding me back is how much difference will I see between .0045 and .0025?
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FYI....All VT30s had rising blacks. I think D-nice confirmed this from his experience with them in the field. Surprised you got 40 ftl in day mode....2011 shootout the pros said the vt30 maxed out at 32-33 ftl

Anyways, the F8500 would be miles higher than the VT30. In the dark, the diff will be noticeable. Less glow in dark scenes. thats about it
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Besides post #15 on this page, I've never seen him make a comment on any other thread regarding the VT30.
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Thanks for the input though. I'm going to make a decision in the next week. I will either get this set or wait for OLED.
"One reason I am very hesistant to purchase a 2013 Panasonic is because of this issue and the fact D-Nice has found the VT30 doubled in MLL over time (at 2500 hours if I recall)."

That one fella remembers D-nice saying this as well. Maybe your VT30 hasn't reached 2500 hours but it mll will rise eventually.

Trust me the F8500 will be worlds better than the VT30.


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I'm new to this thread as I will be receiving my f8500 tomorrow. Where can I find these "Break In" slides that you mention? Any other thing I should know about getting this baby up and running the correct way? Anyone using aftermarket power cords on this TV?
Welcome! The slides are easy to run just follow the directions; not sure if I can post the link but Google search "evangelo slides" and it's the first link.

Download zip and extract, copy to USB drive, plug drive into TV, run as a slideshow on slow setting.

As for break-in settings I'm playing it extra safe cause I dropped almost $4k so I am using Movie mode and turned contrast, brightness, sharpness all to like 50 for the first 200 hours. Oh and "Cell light" to 12-14. The funny thing is it still looks better than the H7150 I had for a few days. Not gonna lie, I ran a few Blu-Rays and TV on OOB settings to see what it can do lol Can't wait till 200 hours are up.....
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Welcome! The slides are easy to run just follow the directions; not sure if I can post the link but Google search "evangelo slides" and it's the first link.

Download zip and extract, copy to USB drive, plug drive into TV, run as a slideshow on slow setting.

As for break-in settings I'm playing it extra safe cause I dropped almost $4k so I am using Movie mode and turned contrast, brightness, sharpness all to like 50 for the first 200 hours. Oh and "Cell light" to 12-14. The funny thing is it still looks better than the H7150 I had for a few days. Not gonna lie, I ran a few Blu-Rays and TV on OOB settings to see what it can do lol Can't wait till 200 hours are up.....
Oh and most importantly when playing 16:9 or 4:3 content make sure to zoom in so the black bars are not showing. And when watching network television zoom in on channels that have the network's logo on bottom right/left like CNN, Food Network, ESPN etc. This 'should' help prevent burn-in and IR when the phosphors are shining brightest on the set.
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