Originally Posted by jimshowalter
There is no perfect panel.
A long-time Kuro owner, I recently bought a TCP65ZT60 and a PN64F8500, before plasma is completely gone.
The Panasonic has the best picture I've ever seen: deepest blacks, most-lifelike colors. Just amazing.
But the Panasonic seems to have been slapped together. It's kind of a beta version. The fans are notorious for generating beat frequencies that are quite annoying, the thing gets incredibly hot, and at least in some cases it generates subwoofer hum. Owners have to basically finish the engineering that Panasonic should have done--adding diverter fans, measuring heat and sticking fans on the back to control it, and (in my case anyway), using an EMF meter and MuMetal shielding to try to knock down the hum.
Compared to the Pansonic, the Samsung is much much better engineered. No fan noise, runs much cooler, no subwoofer hum. Even the 3D glasses are better--light, comfortable, easier to replace the battery. And no distracting bright metal trim visible from the front. And you can still get insurance.
It's just that, well... the Samsung makes everything look like it's shot on video. Like daytime soaps. At first I thought it was the movie (which I hadn't seen before), so I switched to some Blu-rays I've seen multiple times, and they also looked like "All My Children". It's not the LCD "clay-face" problem. Instead, it's an utter lack of filmic quality. Things are too crisp, kind of fakey, like everything is CGI (even people). I fiddled around with various settings and got it to look better, but it still doesn't look realistic.
Does anyone else have both panels? If so, do you have the same experience?
unfortunately not at home, but I have a friend that works at the store I purchased from, so I was able to get the st60, vt60, and f8500 set up side by side by side, and spend several hours comparing them. the zt60 had not arrived yet, so I didn't see it until after I bought my f8500, and to be honest I tried not to look too hard, haha.
but I've never felt that way about my f8500. it's as life-like as any other plasma I've viewed. I know early on there was some talk about a glitch involving cinema smooth. I don't remember the details at all, but it was like it got enabled 'secretly' and gave you that fake look when you didn't want it. you had to turn it on and then off again, or something like that. I'm not totally sure, but I believe it was discussed at some length in the f8500 glitches thread(not sure if that was the exact name of the thread, sorry). if this seems to be an issue only with blurays, I would definitely look into the cinema smooth issue. if it happens with everything, and you have the MJC, and other processing turned off, I'm not too sure.
try renaming the input "PC" and see what happens. it'll change all your settings, and the picture won't look as good, but it should also disable all the extra processing. if you still find it looks fake like that, it's got to be inherent to your panel and not something that could be turned off.