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Here in Northern CA just says 3-5 days. Best Buy's rarely keep such big tickets items on stock. However, not having them in stock here and have no ETA on them is another matter. Did a Magnolia salesperson communicate this to you? What region are you in? Salesman had told me getting scarce on East Coast. Web site for my city still lets me order three (max it will ever allow for this item). Tx.
I am in North Carolina. Their warehouse has no stock currently. Also speaking with Best Buy trying to figure out if my order was ever going to ship they also said they are on back order with no known date.

If you try to ship to store it will originally say 3-5 days but when you go through the checkout process it will then push the date out a few weeks. These further pushed dates mean nothing. They have increasingly been pushed out further each day you check guessing because no stock has come in. I was also told if your order does not get filled within 14 days of the purchase date it will auto cancel. At this point it just seeme like they are taking orders blindly.

Sears also stocks this TV and also offers 5% cash back though Shop Discover. Delivery available next day.
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I am in North Carolina. Their warehouse has no stock currently. Also speaking with Best Buy trying to figure out if my order was ever going to ship they also said they are on back order with no known date.

If you try to ship to store it will originally say 3-5 days but when you go through the checkout process it will then push the date out a few weeks. These further pushed dates mean nothing. They have increasingly been pushed out further each day you check guessing because no stock has come in. I was also told if your order does not get filled within 14 days of the purchase date it will auto cancel. At this point it just seeme like they are taking orders blindly.

Sears also stocks this TV and also offers 5% cash back though Shop Discover. Delivery available next day.
I had the same sort of thing happen to me when I went to buy from Best Buy. Bought it from Amazon instead. Saved money on the tax and paid far lesser than BB for extended warranty. I would suggest trying Amazon - they still seem to have them in stock.

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Hi, I have done settings based on recommendations given here
http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...-hdtv-settings

Picture is excellent but worried about cell light being set at 17 and 20 with my TV being new.
Is it dowry hint to be worried about?
Also judder is a little high in sports with this setting. Any recommendations to make it better?
TV is less than a month old. It's 64" model.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi, I have done settings based on recommendations given here
http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...-hdtv-settings

Picture is excellent but worried about cell light being set at 17 and 20 with my TV being new.
Is it dowry hint to be worried about?
Also judder is a little high in sports with this setting. Any recommendations to make it better?
TV is less than a month old. It's 64" model.
Thanks in advance.

Turn off "Film Mode" for watching sports. I have zero judder, and I'm a big sports fan.

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Thanks will try.
Can u give me advice cell light setting at 17 to 20 for a new TV.
Also is there a way to check life hours in the TV?
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Can u give me advice cell light setting at 17 to 20 for a new TV.
Also is there a way to check life hours in the TV?
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One other thing to add. If you do watch a lot of sports, don't watch it in Movie/warm 2 mode. The realism of the picture is not quite up to par as it is in Standard/Standard mode. After watching sports/live news broadcasts in Movie/warm 2 for months on end, when I changed to Standard picture mode, standard color temp, the veil was lifted off the screen, and the realism of the event was right there in your face. It has made my sports watching/live broadcasts more enjoyable.

I'd adjust cell light based on your room lighting. It's also a personable adjustment. If you watch tv in a very dark room, like I do, you can set cell between 10-15 (in Standard Mode), or 15-20 in Movie mode, and be happy with the picture. Brighter rooms require higher cell light numbers, because the room lighting will make the screen look dimmer than it should. Background lighting is preferred for watching your tv. It will enhance the effect of the overall brightness of your tv, without having to max out your cell light setting, and will be easier for your eyes to focus. Standard Mode puts out more brighter picture than Movie mode does, so if you do decide to switch to Standard, you can get away with lower cell light values. Just adjust to personal preference. Whatever makes you happy. But definitely play around with the settings until you find a combination that you like. I still find myself tweaking my settings a little here and there (cell light mostly) when I watch certain programs and during different hours of the day. Some programs need more cell light to see more detail shading (fault of the broadcast channel), while others are too bright and reducing cell light makes it easier on the eyes to watch.

The calibrators typically don't start/adjust their calibrations in Standard mode on these sets because this mode is further away from the Rec 709 standard color space than Movie/warm 2 is, and also because the 10-pt setting is inactive in this mode. I thoroughly enjoy watching most programs now in Standard mode/Standard color temp than I ever did in Movie/warm 2.
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One other thing to add. If you do watch a lot of sports, don't watch it in Movie/warm 2 mode. The realism of the picture is not quite up to par as it is in Standard/Standard mode. After watching sports/live news broadcasts in Movie/warm 2 for months on end, when I changed to Standard picture mode, standard color temp, the veil was lifted off the screen, and the realism of the event was right there in your face. It has made my sports watching/live broadcasts more enjoyable.
does it remember your settings for each like you can adjust movie 2 the way you like then just swap to standard for sports?

is it easy to switch?
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Can u give me advice cell light setting at 17 to 20 for a new TV.
Also is there a way to check life hours in the TV?
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Reset tv and get out of Sound and Vision settings. They are garbage. Go through the settings thread. There are individuals on here with much better settings.

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Didn't know there was a separate settings thread here... Can u guide me to go there. Link pls.
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Didn't know there was a separate settings thread here... Can u guide me to go there. Link pls.

Here ---> F8500 Recommended Settings Thread.....
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Reset tv and get out of Sound and Vision settings. They are garbage. Go through the settings thread. There are individuals on here with much better settings.

From what I've learned with regards to user settings since being an 8500 owner and joining this thread last year is that using someone else's calibrated settings (no matter what expert calibrated it) on *your* tv only gets you close, but won't be accurate for your tv. Actually, the word "close" may not even be accurate, when those settings are measured on a graph with calibration software, the results may be even further off than you can see with the human eye. I have tried nearly every posted, 8500 calibration settings on my tv at one point or another, and have mixed feelings about all of them. Most will say the 2-pt and 10-pt adjustments are unique to every tv, and that's where the magic happens(where the calibrator earns his pay). So, I would actually treat every other posted calibration settings with caution. Some may look better on *your* tv than others will on someone else's tv, but none will be a perfect match for *your* tv.

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I think a lot of Best Buys are just out of stock. I know the ones by me are. I ordered one 2 weeks ago from them with a delivery date the same week. 2 days later my delivery got canceled and was told the 64F8500 is on back order. Currently they still do not have them in stock here and have no ETA on them.
As long as out of stock means cannot or will not be getting any more. I know they no longer have the plasma displayed.
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anybody try DVE calibrate on their own. I have this blu ray and used it on my DLP and it did a pretty darn good job

will this work on this set?
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One other thing to add. If you do watch a lot of sports, don't watch it in Movie/warm 2 mode. The realism of the picture is not quite up to par as it is in Standard/Standard mode. After watching sports/live news broadcasts in Movie/warm 2 for months on end, when I changed to Standard picture mode, standard color temp, the veil was lifted off the screen, and the realism of the event was right there in your face. It has made my sports watching/live broadcasts more enjoyable.

I'd adjust cell light based on your room lighting. It's also a personable adjustment. If you watch tv in a very dark room, like I do, you can set cell between 10-15 (in Standard Mode), or 15-20 in Movie mode, and be happy with the picture. Brighter rooms require higher cell light numbers, because the room lighting will make the screen look dimmer than it should. Background lighting is preferred for watching your tv. It will enhance the effect of the overall brightness of your tv, without having to max out your cell light setting, and will be easier for your eyes to focus. Standard Mode puts out more brighter picture than Movie mode does, so if you do decide to switch to Standard, you can get away with lower cell light values. Just adjust to personal preference. Whatever makes you happy. But definitely play around with the settings until you find a combination that you like. I still find myself tweaking my settings a little here and there (cell light mostly) when I watch certain programs and during different hours of the day. Some programs need more cell light to see more detail shading (fault of the broadcast channel), while others are too bright and reducing cell light makes it easier on the eyes to watch.

The calibrators typically don't start/adjust their calibrations in Standard mode on these sets because this mode is further away from the Rec 709 standard color space than Movie/warm 2 is, but I thoroughly enjoy watching most programs now in Standard mode/Standard color temp than I ever did in Movie/warm 2.
When I varied the settings on the display at Best Buy, movie mode was not my favorite. It seeemed to present insufficient detail, while with the relax mode the picture seemed more detailed. Of course, it could be that the settings were altered by potenetial customers. What do you think of the relax versus movie mode, especially when it comes to detail? Thanks.
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When I varied the settings on the display at Best Buy, movie mode was not my favorite. It seeemed to present insufficient detail, while with the relax mode the picture seemed more detailed. Of course, it could be that the settings were altered by potenetial customers. What do you think of the relax versus movie mode, especially when it comes to detail? Thanks.

I never used Relax mode before. I just tried it. It's alright, when compared with Movie mode, but a little too subdued/dim for my tastes since I've been using Standard mode. Plus, I noticed you don't have access to any of the "Advanced Settings" when in Relax mode. In Movie mode, you do. Advanced settings are Dynamic contrast,mBlack Tone, Flesh Tone, RGB only mode, Color space, White balance, 10pt white balance, Gamma, Motion lighting, etc. So, Relax mode would not be used for calibrating the 8500.
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does anybody know which one of these will work for the F8500 64"?

edit, update,

Live monoprice chat said this, can anyone confirm?

You would want to use PID 5918 it would be able to fit the 600x400 hole mounting pattern on the back of your TV and it would be able to hold the weight of the TV as well. http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2

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anybody try DVE calibrate on their own. I have this blu ray and used it on my DLP and it did a pretty darn good job

will this work on this set?
You should really, really, really consider having your display professionally calibrated.
Once complete you will never touch or want to touch a picture mode or setting again.

Perhaps I misremembered.

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What is the cost range for a pro calibration?
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It really depends usually 3-450 though for a good one. The best thing to do is find one in your area and get a quote.


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Reset tv and get out of Sound and Vision settings. They are garbage. Go through the settings thread. There are individuals on here with much better settings.
I totally agree on the Sound and Vision settings.

The best settings I've found (though still need for my 64" 8500 a little tweaking) are the Movie settings from D-Nice.
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Here is a much cleaner db view of going from a dark to light scene. I'm going to make some phone calls tomorrow. I wish there was a quick fix to just tighten the rear panel. Anyone know why slightly pressing on the top left of the rear panel (where the large vent is) would eliminate the buzz?


**Update** I did unscrew the three rear panel screws around the buzzing component and that did the trick. I am now buzz free. I'd like to understand why this is an issue in the first place but I'll take the win and move on.
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**Update** I did unscrew the three rear panel screws around the buzzing component and that did the trick. I am now buzz free. I'd like to understand why this is an issue in the first place but I'll take the win and move on.

I'm positive the buzz you were experiencing is not the same "plasma buzz" that owners are complaining about. Your issue is more of a vibration/resonating problem. You tightened some screws which dampened the vibration. Plasma buzz cannot be fixed by tightening screws on the back of your display. True Plasma buzz is inherent in the design, albeit how quiet or loud it may get from one owner to another, from one plasma tv to another.

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