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This looks really cool on this set

http://youtu.be/8leorFMy0rg
Looks really good on my monitor will love to try to my TV when it arrives!

For anyone who wants other reference audio and video tracks visit this site:
http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/hi...n-trailers.php

This site has literally hundreds of demo tracks from all the big manufacturers. Really incredible and definitely recommend you have a look if you haven't already. Also just noticed the Samsung one you found on ebay is on this site as well. And let's just say if you thought the youtube one looked good... you have yet to watch it again uncompressed

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It's tough to rate the quality of the picture based on one transmission. I would play a Blu-ray disk your familiar with to better evaluate the display.
I've played a few 1080p movies and they look outstanding. I was just noting some issues with broadcast TV and was wondering if this was typical.
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This looks really cool on this set

http://youtu.be/8leorFMy0rg
Looks really good on my monitor will love to try to my TV when it arrives!

For anyone who wants other reference audio and video tracks visit this site:
http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/hi...n-trailers.php

This site has literally hundreds of demo tracks from all the big manufacturers. Really incredible and definitely recommend you have a look if you haven't already. Also just noticed the Samsung one you found on ebay is on this site as well. And let's just say if you thought the youtube one looked good... you have yet to watch it again uncompressed
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This looks really cool on this set

http://youtu.be/8leorFMy0rg
Looks really good on my monitor will love to try to my TV when it arrives!

For anyone who wants other reference audio and video tracks visit this site:
http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/hi...n-trailers.php

This site has literally hundreds of demo tracks from all the big manufacturers. Really incredible and definitely recommend you have a look if you haven't already. Also just noticed the Samsung one you found on ebay is on this site as well. And let's just say if you thought the youtube one looked good... you have yet to watch it again uncompressed
Thanks for the Demo link...looks great !
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Optical out should pass 5.1

I am confused after reading many threads.. I have:

DirectTv HR21 DVR
AppleTV2
Pansonic BlueRay DVD
XBox
Marantz AVR

They all have HDMI out and SPDIF. I also use my Apple TV for Airplay music streaming from iTunes and Spotify to the AVR. I care about 5.1 to my receiver. I am not sure I need to care about much more. SHould I just run the HDMI cables direct to TV and the SPDIF from TV to receiver? Will that give me 5.1? what won't it give me?
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Optical out should pass 5.1

I am confused after reading many threads.. I have:

DirectTv HR21 DVR
AppleTV2
Pansonic BlueRay DVD
XBox
Marantz AVR

They all have HDMI out and SPDIF. I also use my Apple TV for Airplay music streaming from iTunes and Spotify to the AVR. I care about 5.1 to my receiver. I am not sure I need to care about much more. SHould I just run the HDMI cables direct to TV and the SPDIF from TV to receiver? Will that give me 5.1? what won't it give me?


How many hdmi / optical are there on your avr ?

If you have enough for all your devices just plug them all into the avr (hdmi and optical ) then all you need is to use the hdmi out from avr to your tv.


Plugging anything directly into tv won't give you any 5.1.

Your avr will decode the 5.1 and send it your speakers that you have hooked up to your avr.

That's why u plug everything into avr which will decode it and send it to your speakers. Hdmi carries audio and video and will send video to tv and audio to speakers from your AVR.

Just be sure you have the correct settings in your tv for the audio.


I assume you do have a 5.1 speaker set up.

If you don't have enough inputs on your avr then choose which is the least important to you and plug it directly into tv. Then you would have to use the tv speakers for that device and you won't get 5.1.

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That is not typical. Broadcast content (720p, 1080i) has been excellent from my Comcast DVR.
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...in ref to #9271 above. Enhanced Mobile got me again.
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Optical out should pass 5.1

I am confused after reading many threads.. I have:

DirectTv HR21 DVR
AppleTV2
Pansonic BlueRay DVD
XBox
Marantz AVR

They all have HDMI out and SPDIF. I also use my Apple TV for Airplay music streaming from iTunes and Spotify to the AVR. I care about 5.1 to my receiver. I am not sure I need to care about much more. SHould I just run the HDMI cables direct to TV and the SPDIF from TV to receiver? Will that give me 5.1? what won't it give me?

How many hdmi / optical are there on your avr ?

If you have enough for all your devices just plug them all into the avr (hdmi and optical ) then all you need is to use the hdmi out from avr to your tv.


Plugging anything directly into tv won't give you any 5.1. Your avr will decode the 5.1 and send it your speakers that you have hooked up to your avr.


That's why u plug everything into avr which will decode it and send it to your speakers. Hdmi carries audio and video and will send video to tv and audio to speakers from your AVR.

Just be sure you have the correct settings in your tv for the audio.

I assume you do have a 5.1 speaker set up. If you don't have enough inputs on your avr then choose which is the least important to you and plug it directly into tv. Then you would have to use the tv speakers for that device and you won't get 5.1.
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How many hdmi / optical are there on your avr ?

If you have enough for all your devices just plug them all into the avr (hdmi and optical ) then all you need is to use the hdmi out from avr to your tv.


Plugging anything directly into tv won't give you any 5.1. Your avr will decode the 5.1 and send it your speakers that you have hooked up to your avr.


That's why u plug everything into avr which will decode it and send it to your speakers. Hdmi carries audio and video and will send video to tv and audio to speakers from your AVR.

Just be sure you have the correct settings in your tv for the audio.

I assume you do have a 5.1 speaker set up. If you don't have enough inputs on your avr then choose which is the least important to you and plug it directly into tv. Then you would have to use the tv speakers for that device and you won't get 5.1.
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I am confused after reading many threads.. I have:

DirectTv HR21 DVR
AppleTV2
Pansonic BlueRay DVD
XBox
Marantz AVR

They all have HDMI out and SPDIF. I also use my Apple TV for Airplay music streaming from iTunes and Spotify to the AVR. I care about 5.1 to my receiver. I am not sure I need to care about much more. SHould I just run the HDMI cables direct to TV and the SPDIF from TV to receiver? Will that give me 5.1? what won't it give me?
I'm getting that strange feeling of Deja Vu right now...
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Comparison to older Panny

I have a 50 inch 77u series from 2008. No issues with it, but of course getting the itch to buy something new and going bigger. Any opinion on comparisons from someone coming from an older Panny plasma?
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I had the Panasonic VT60, which was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread. To me it looked dull...didn't have the "glitter" if you will, like you see in a Rembrandt painting where the whites look there is a light bulb behind the canvas. I'm trying my best to describe the look of the Samsung the best way I can. You just know your looking at something special with a Samsung PNxxF8500. The best day in my life was the day Amazon said they were picking up my Panasonic plasma and giving me a refund.
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I'm getting that strange feeling of Deja Vu right now...
while it may be deja vu to you it is very confusing. i have read many posts and some some say 5.1 DOES pass through yet you say it doesn't. shoot me for asking the question, i guess the best way to know is get a reference sound source and try it
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while it may be deja vu to you it is very confusing. i have read many posts and some some say 5.1 DOES pass through yet you say it doesn't. shoot me for asking the question, i guess the best way to know is get a reference sound source and try it
Here's an attachment from Samsung Support regarding the 5.1/hdmi limitations you're inquiring about.

You've gotta trust somebody to give you a correct answer. You might as well trust me. I know my answer is correct. I've been on this forum since its inception, and I know the capabilities/limitations of this tv.
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Received my 64" 8500 from BB ($2,500, Born Oct. 14) this past Saturday and must say i'm floored by the PQ and spot on colors right out the box. This is my first plasma, and coming from an 8 year old Sony 60" SXRD HDTV, i couldn't be happier with my purchase (no buzz, at least my 60 year old ears can't hear if its there). I won't be using the smart features since i have all sources running through my Marantz AVR including an Oppo 103D which will be used for all streaming of video/audio.

I'm a newbe to high end TV so i have calibrated the unit using CNET settings which provides a moderate improvement, however, considering professional calibration after 200+ hours based on recommendations from this forum. I'm looking into BB Geek Squad who i understand are ISF certified. The cost is $250, but not sure if BB would be the best way to go. Any guidance or opinions would be appreciated. Thanks

For Florida folks, BB in Orlando has the 64" in stock for $2,500 at several of their stores. Not sure about smaller units.
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Since my store has no more stock and Samsung won't do replacements, anyone have experience with Samsung service center requests? How's the turn aroundtime to order a new panel? I'm 99% committed to just returning it to the store and go for the F5300
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I have no experience with Samsung repair but their customer service seems OK for the times I did call them. But your making a big mistake by not sticking with the 8500. Either get it fixed by Samsung or get a refund and buy a new 8500 if you can find one this late in the game.
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From what I've read online, it seems the US sets (apparently the 2014 models?) come with two remotes, and Canadian sets come with just the touch remote.
Yeah I haven't been able to wrap my head around this logic why Samsung includes only one remote for the Canadian models and 2 remotes for the U.S. models. There must be some logic to this unless it was about cost, but those remotes aren't expensive.
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Yeah I haven't been able to wrap my head around this logic why Samsung includes only one remote for the Canadian models and 2 remotes for the U.S. models. There must be some logic to this unless it was about cost, but those remotes aren't expensive.
because it's canada and electronics, and if we weren't getting screwed over for no reason it wouldn't be 'right'...

still, i'm more annoyed that MSRP's are like 800bux over the US, than the ommission of a 20dollar remote
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I use a Harmony 900 remote, which obtains all the codes online. I never use discrete remotes as they don't even come close to the convenience offered by a universal remote.
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Hello, New Member Here... I tried to search for this, but could not find the IR Remote Code for my 51F8500. I'd like to be able to control the TV with my Verizon FiOs remote as ell (On/Off, Volume). Does anyone know it?

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Hello, New Member Here... I tried to search for this, but could not find the IR Remote Code for my 51F8500. I'd like to be able to control the TV with my Verizon FiOs remote as ell (On/Off, Volume). Does anyone know it?

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Do you have this FIOS remote? This is mine. It was easy to program with directions on the back.
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Do you have this FIOS remote? This is mine. It was easy to program with directions on the back.
Hey, Thanks for the Quick Reply Dan, My remote is Very similar, I think you have the Verizon P265, where mine is one of the two Phillips remotes Verizon Shows. I did try it and Lights were "Blinkin", but after 1o minutes, I gave up. I'll try to use the 24 codes Verizon Lists for Samsung, I hope its not the last one listed

I'll post back if I figure it out.

Thanks again!

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or get a refund and buy a new 8500 if you can find one this late in the game.
FWIW, I've no idea if any of us will actually get them, but bestbuy.com is still taking orders.

Delivery dates are unknown, but "Pick Up in Store" is universally quoted as "3 - 5 days."
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And I set up my F8500 today, enjoyed it for a bit and now it won't turn on

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thinking about getting this display but was told to only buy it if the build date is between aug-nov of this year. How do i verify that and what is the issue?
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And I set up my F8500 today, enjoyed it for a bit and now it won't turn on
Unplug it from the wall, wait 30 seconds and replug it. See if that doesn't reset the processor.

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thinking about getting this display but was told to only buy it if the build date is between aug-nov of this year. How do i verify that and what is the issue?
There have been miscellaneous issues with the set that seem to be fixed in the latest version.

Unfortunately the only way to verify the manufacturing date is on a label on the back of the set itself or perhaps also on the box.
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I have no experience with Samsung repair but their customer service seems OK for the times I did call them. But your making a big mistake by not sticking with the 8500. Either get it fixed by Samsung or get a refund and buy a new 8500 if you can find one this late in the game.
I wont be able to find a new one locally without spending the big bucks
I wonder if Samsung has the F8500 panel itself with the service centers...I might give this route a try if the turnaround is a week or two.

then again I'm reading 60F5300 is pretty pink tint prone as well...sigh I just wish the 64" version is still around. I know pentile doesn't matter at my view distance, still.
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I had the Panasonic VT60, which was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread. To me it looked dull...didn't have the "glitter" if you will, like you see in a Rembrandt painting where the whites look there is a light bulb behind the canvas. I'm trying my best to describe the look of the Samsung the best way I can. You just know your looking at something special with a Samsung PNxxF8500. The best day in my life was the day Amazon said they were picking up my Panasonic plasma and giving me a refund.
I owned a VT60 for nearly 10 months and currently own a F8500. I would have to disagree with you. The VT60 was something special. Each TV has it's own strengths and weaknesses. The VT60's strength was in non daytime sunny lit room. In these conditions the VT60 was a sight to behold I think.

What you consider dim or dull I would consider more of a cinematic look to the picture which is different then the F8500. The contrast on the VT60 was incredible. I am enjoying my F8500 but would never knock the VT60.
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Your right, it's a matter of taste. I remember when I had the old cathode ray projector, which was dim to start out with, and then had it professionally calibrated, I actually liked the non-calibrated version of the picture because it was brighter. I'm so in love with my 8500, I now spend much less time watching my JVC X700 projector on a 110" screen because it just doesn't match the brilliance of the Samsung plasma.
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