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Hello all... Trying to track down a new pn64f8500... Not having any luck obviously.. Best buy has a floor model from June 2013 for 1400.00 with no remote!! Any thoughts? Thanks
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Hello all... Trying to track down a new pn64f8500... Not having any luck obviously.. Best buy has a floor model from June 2013 for 1400.00 with no remote!! Any thoughts? Thanks
If they have had the tv on for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week since June of 2013, there would be around 7000 hours on that screen. That's not so bad. The question is if they had any static logos on it for that many hours. If so, there is probably some serious burn in issues. For a used tv, which it really is, it's not worth half the original price. If you don't see burn in, dead pixels, etc, I would ask them to throw in a 4 year extended warranty for free. The remote you can find on Amazon for $30.
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Quick question?? I purchased the PN60F8500 Used at a best buy. when Geeksquad came to mount the tv they scratched the panel. They said they can replace it and they also said the panel will be an official Samsung panel. Will this deteriorate the PQ at all? from what I gathered it may even gain more hours of use with the new panel but i don't want to lose an PQ while doing it.
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Quick question?? I purchased the PN60F8500 Used at a best buy. when Geeksquad came to mount the tv they scratched the panel. They said they can replace it and they also said the panel will be an official Samsung panel. Will this deteriorate the PQ at all? from what I gathered it may even gain more hours of use with the new panel but i don't want to lose an PQ while doing it.
Recent posts say the replacement panel is good, so no worries, Mate.
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I thought I would post this review of my full ISF calibration performed by Chad B. on my 64F8500 two weeks ago. The display was initially calibrated using CNET settings on movie mode and had a break in period of 340 hours. This is my first Plasma, and I bought it because of the great reviews that raved about its PQ. I'm a newbie to highend displays, so my review will not be technical but rather based on what I see.

Chad arrived promptly at 3pm per schedule and spent three and a half hours on the calibration. The timing of the calibration couldn't have been better because it took place during afternoon and early evening lighting in my living room. Chad was engaging and very friendly, but at the same time, he was serious and focused on the task at hand. He spent quality time explaining the calibration process to me. The pre-calibration test showed the display being somewhat off desired settings. It seemed Chad spent a good amount of time in white balance, adjusting and then readjusting until he was satisfied. Yes, it was pain staking, but the end result was nothing short of jaw dropping.

The first thing that was very obvious after calibration was the brightness (max fl: 42.3 pre), (max fl: 54.6 post). But, it was not overly bright to the point that detracted from the overall PQ. Shades of color appeared spot on accurate. Everything looked natural and smooth, especially skin tones. Before, skin tones had a slight greenish tint, objects seemed a little over saturated and not as realistic as they are now. I watch a lot of hockey and now the ice looks white and natural, not the slight pinkish tint it had before. I think the biggest improvement is in dark sceenes with inkier blacks and more detail and texture. As an example, in a sceene where a man wearing a black coat and dark grey vest in a dimly lit room revealed different shades and more shadow detail than before.

To be honest, I was expecting some improvement but not this significant. I am completely satisfied with the results and was impressed with the professionalism of Chad B. Therefore, I would highly recommend a full calibration. In summary it was worth the cost to have my display performing at its full potential.
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^What picture modes did you have calibrated?^

Perhaps I misremembered.

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[QUOTE=RMcNeil213;31122674]... from what I gathered it may even gain more hours of use with the new panel but i don't want to lose an PQ


Hold up. What do you mean that "it may gain even more hours"? Do then intend to replace the panel with a used one?
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Hello all... Trying to track down a new pn64f8500... Not having any luck obviously.. Best buy has a floor model from June 2013 for 1400.00 with no remote!! Any thoughts? Thanks
Does it have (and do you need) the stand? I looked at a floor model PN60F8500 at Fry's Electronics and they lacked one of the remotes AND the stand as they had it wall mounted. I figured I could replace the remote but the stand was a deal breaker.

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Does it have (and do you need) the stand? I looked at a floor model PN60F8500 at Fry's Electronics and they lacked one of the remotes AND the stand as they had it wall mounted. I figured I could replace the remote but the stand was a deal breaker.
You can find parts for Samsung from Samsung. Unfortunately, the stand costs $200.

http://www.samsungparts.com/Products...el=PN60F8500AF
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EMI -- Now I need a tin-foil hat 24x7

The F8500 makes for some serious EMI to other components.


I have an old Meridian 561 digital preamplifier / processor that I still use for home theater. It sits with it's top about 2 inches below the bottom right side of my 64F8500, wall-mounted on an articulating arm and about a foot out from the wall.


When I installed the 64F8500, we noticed that the Meridian began behaving strangely when the TV was on. It would turn itself on and off, change modes and presets, and generally act strange every hour or two. It also would often not respond to the remote control, and sometime would not even respond to the front panel buttons (e.g. have to pull the plug to turn it off). It (mostly) worked fine with the F8500 turned off.


I thought that this was infrared from the picture messing with the remote control sensor of the Meridian. We had similar, less severe, problems back in 2003 when I installed my first plasma (a 42" Panasonic) with the identical setup. Somewhere on this forum I learned of a small stick-on IR filter, and attaching that over the Meridian's remote control sensor window solved the problem, for the 42" Panasonic and the 50" Kuro that came along a few years later.


I reasoned that the much larger and brighter screen put out more infrared, so I needed to add another layer of filtering. Adding another layer of filtering did not help, though.


The breakthrough came when, one day, I noticed that with the F8500 on, the Meridian was not responding to the front panel buttons when I covered the infrared sensor window with my thumb. Very suspicious...


On a hunch, I wrapped a sheet of aluminum foil around the top and sides of the Meridian.


Problem completely solved, almost.


The poor Meridian 561 had gotten so scrambled by the F8500 that it would (for example) no longer allow access to the center speaker adjustments. That was fixed by re-uploading it's saved firmware and settings from a PC.


Now, it's fine wearing it's tin foil hat all the time. But I was a bit surprised that the F8500 puts out that much EMI.
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or is the meridian too sensitive... haha


that's weird. I guess that extra brightness comes at a cost. I know it's a power hog, so I suppose it makes sense that more current equals a stronger field.


that being said, I haven't experienced anything like this, so who knows if it's common or if the f8500 is missing some shielding or something?

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^What picture modes did you have calibrated?^
Movie mode only. I placed same settings on relaxed and standard, however, some of the settings were grayed out for some reason like white balance and others. But it did improve both modes somewhat, but not as good as it did for movie. Also, Chad calibrated 3D and there is a marked improvement.
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Does it have (and do you need) the stand? I looked at a floor model PN60F8500 at Fry's Electronics and they lacked one of the remotes AND the stand as they had it wall mounted. I figured I could replace the remote but the stand was a deal breaker.
You could get this stand off eBay for cheaper:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-PN60...item1c4cbed604
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Recent posts say the replacement panel is good, so no worries, Mate.
alright good and thanks for the quick response.
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... from what I gathered it may even gain more hours of use with the new panel but i don't want to lose an PQ


Hold up. What do you mean that "it may gain even more hours"? Do then intend to replace the panel with a used one?
no they're replacing it with a brand new one. From what i was told that can make the tv last longer. again i wasn't sure on it but if thats the case cool.
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or is the meridian too sensitive... haha


that's weird. I guess that extra brightness comes at a cost. I know it's a power hog, so I suppose it makes sense that more current equals a stronger field.


that being said, I haven't experienced anything like this, so who knows if it's common or if the f8500 is missing some shielding or something?

I just think the F8500 doesn't want anything in its immediate area to steal attention away from it.....
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I thought I would post this review of my full ISF calibration performed by Chad B. on my 64F8500 two weeks ago. The display was initially calibrated using CNET settings on movie mode and had a break in period of 340 hours. This is my first Plasma, and I bought it because of the great reviews that raved about its PQ. I'm a newbie to highend displays, so my review will not be technical but rather based on what I see.

Chad arrived promptly at 3pm per schedule and spent three and a half hours on the calibration. The timing of the calibration couldn't have been better because it took place during afternoon and early evening lighting in my living room. Chad was engaging and very friendly, but at the same time, he was serious and focused on the task at hand. He spent quality time explaining the calibration process to me. The pre-calibration test showed the display being somewhat off desired settings. It seemed Chad spent a good amount of time in white balance, adjusting and then readjusting until he was satisfied. Yes, it was pain staking, but the end result was nothing short of jaw dropping.

The first thing that was very obvious after calibration was the brightness (max fl: 42.3 pre), (max fl: 54.6 post). But, it was not overly bright to the point that detracted from the overall PQ. Shades of color appeared spot on accurate. Everything looked natural and smooth, especially skin tones. Before, skin tones had a slight greenish tint, objects seemed a little over saturated and not as realistic as they are now. I watch a lot of hockey and now the ice looks white and natural, not the slight pinkish tint it had before. I think the biggest improvement is in dark sceenes with inkier blacks and more detail and texture. As an example, in a sceene where a man wearing a black coat and dark grey vest in a dimly lit room revealed different shades and more shadow detail than before.

To be honest, I was expecting some improvement but not this significant. I am completely satisfied with the results and was impressed with the professionalism of Chad B. Therefore, I would highly recommend a full calibration. In summary it was worth the cost to have my display performing at its full potential.
What were your settings prior to calibration and after?
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Put that worry out of your mind. I have had plasma for ten years now. Never a "burn in" issue. Some retention is always bing to happen, but it goes away. It's the price to pay if you want to have a TV that displays the most realistic picture. Enjoy it!
I also own a ZT60.

Being careful with station logos and ticker boxes drove me nuts. Just wanted a hassle-free smooth operating high performance plasma tv.

The F8500 does that nicely.

Reference color.

Excellent Blacks.

Extremely effective light filter ( 2nd behind the ZT60 if anyone was counting according to CNET )

Brightness. Huge bonus with video games and sports in a semi-dim room. Everything appears to be so much more...sharper?
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