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Have to get my beloved 64F8500 repaired. Going to try and get it covered by my Chase Freedom card since I've owned it for 17 months and it's out of regular warranty. It has issues powering on. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. We'll see how much this is going to cost using one of Samsung's repair centers.

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Have to get my beloved 64F8500 repaired. Going to try and get it covered by my Chase Freedom card since I've owned it for 17 months and it's out of regular warranty. It has issues powering on. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. We'll see how much this is going to cost using one of Samsung's repair centers.
If you registered it with Samsung initially, they did add 6 months on to their 12 month warranty. So you should have a 18 month warranty. If you have only owned it 17 months, you should still be covered.
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If you registered it with Samsung initially, they did add 6 months on to their 12 month warranty. So you should have a 18 month warranty. If you have only owned it 17 months, you should still be covered.
Really? When did they do this? I did create a service request this weekend. I guess we'll see what they say. But is there anywhere you can direct me to where this info is located for reference? Thanks in advance.

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Guys after ces2015 it means that there will not be any new evolution kit for our 64f8500? Whats the last evolution kit that we should put in?
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Really? When did they do this? I did create a service request this weekend. I guess we'll see what they say. But is there anywhere you can direct me to where this info is located for reference? Thanks in advance.
They did this during 2013 with the purchase of the F8500. They didn't offer the extra 6 months if purchased in late 2014. Call them and ask when your warranty expires. I bought mine in early January 2014, and got the extra 6 months when I registered the product.

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Guys after ces2015 it means that there will not be any new evolution kit for our 64f8500? Whats the last evolution kit that we should put in?
A better question would be should I get the evolution kit?

IMO...no. It only updates some of the apps. Does nothing for the normal display operation.

Plus, it seems that many have problems getting them to work.

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If you registered it with Samsung initially, they did add 6 months on to their 12 month warranty. So you should have a 18 month warranty. If you have only owned it 17 months, you should still be covered.
That is the first I've heard of this because when I purchased my F8500 last year and registered it Samsung gave me just one extra month on top of the 12 months. I purchased it in May 2014.
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How can you find out how many months Samsung gave you for the warranty? I have my product registered and when I log in it takes me to the F8500 as being registered but no mention as to for how long I have warranty.
I am trying to avoid calling them.
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Guys after ces2015 it means that there will not be any new evolution kit for our 64f8500? Whats the last evolution kit that we should put in?
Where did they say that?

Edit: All I found was this: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1420882345

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Unfortunately, I'm going to have to party ways with my 60". I thought I could get used to the directional buzzing, but when you hear it during every quiet scene, and it sounds like a fly buzzing around, it gets irritating. I doubt Best Buy has another in stock so I won't be getting a new one.

It's going to be a huge downgrade going back to my 52" Samsung LCD though.
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That is the first I've heard of this because when I purchased my F8500 last year and registered it Samsung gave me just one extra month on top of the 12 months. I purchased it in May 2014.
The extra 6 months were for those that bought in 2013 into early 2014. I dont know when they dropped the promo, but I remember getting the extra 6 months.
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Unfortunately, I'm going to have to party ways with my 60". I thought I could get used to the directional buzzing, but when you hear it during every quiet scene, and it sounds like a fly buzzing around, it gets irritating. I doubt Best Buy has another in stock so I won't be getting a new one.

It's going to be a huge downgrade going back to my 52" Samsung LCD though.
I know exactly how you feel.

I loved the PQ of my 64F8500 and would happily have lived with it for the next decade… if the directional buzz/sizzle hadn't been so bad that it sounded like constant tape hiss.

I would have had Samsung try to "repair" it, but no one has ever had it fixed via a panel replacement, so I'm back to my ten year-old 50" Panasonic plasma that still has quite good PQ itself, but going from a 64" back to a 50" takes a bit of getting used to.
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I loved the PQ of my 64F8500 and would happily have lived with it for the next decade… if the directional buzz/sizzle hadn't been so bad that it sounded like constant tape hiss.
The problem should improve with age. Yours not the F8500. By 60 few can hear sound above 8000 Hz.
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The problem should improve with age. Yours not the F8500. By 60 few can hear sound above 8000 Hz.
well that's a sad way to look at it...too bad that's gonna take decades for me.

Anywho,

Does anyone want to take a guess at how UHD with bt2020 and HDR will look like on a F8500? I know it supports HEVC but not sure how much of a step up it is compared to current 1080p blu-rays? UHD/BT2020/HDR was just announced for next-gen blu-ray specs and I'm wondering if we'll see a noticable difference on our 1080p sets?

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well that's a sad way to look at it...too bad that's gonna take decades for me.



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Does anyone want to take a guess at how UHD with bt2020 and HDR will look like on a F8500? I know it supports HEVC but not sure how much of a step up it is compared to current 1080p blu-rays? UHD/BT2020/HDR was just announced for next-gen blu-ray specs and I'm wondering if we'll see a noticable difference on our 1080p sets?

For those without HDMI 2.0 and hdcp 2.2 you will have limited choices. Anything you do will be "down rezed" to what your TV has. As far as I remember the f8500 doesn't support the resolutions needed for UHD so you'd get a "resolution not supported". For UHDbluray you may be "left in the cold" so to speak due to requirements. We don't know enough yet however. Time will tell how they handle the differences and what if any are seen.


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If you were, seems that you could select your resolutions on a UHD player, similar to how my Oppo 95 works.

So what we need is somebody to buy a UHD player, select a 1080p output resolution and see what happens on their F8500.

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Really ?

How old is your TV and how long did you leave it on the station with the logo ?
well that's just it never more than a few hours. also i have a very early build (march 13')

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If you were, seems that you could select your resolutions on a UHD player, similar to how my Oppo 95 works.

So what we need is somebody to buy a UHD player, select a 1080p output resolution and see what happens on their F8500.
The F8500 is capable of handling 1080p60 material. Right now, no blu ray players do that. However, in the future on would think it could handle UHD blu players that down rez higher frame rate material to 1080p at 48 or 60 fps if the movies are made using HFR. Same with broadcast material. If broadcasters update to non interlaced 4K that uses 60fps, it should be able to down rez to 1080p60 if done correctly.
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None of this is going to matter if the new EVO kits don't work on the F8500. They'd also need to pass 4:4:4 chroma without requiring PC mode to be enabled too.
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None of this is going to matter if the new EVO kits don't work on the F8500. They'd also need to pass 4:4:4 chroma without requiring PC mode to be enabled too.
The F8500 passes the Spears and Munsil 4:4:4 chroma burst tests, my Pioneer 5020 never could.
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The F8500 passes the Spears and Munsil 4:4:4 chroma burst tests, my Pioneer 5020 never could.
That seems highly unlikely. The CMS and internal processing of the F8500 is 4:2:2. It most definitely will not pass a RGB signal through to the panel without downscaling the chroma to 4:2:2 except in PC mode (which disables the CMS and other internal processing). In the back of my mind I was hoping for an EVO kit that would do RGB through to the panel limitation without disabling the CMS or forcing 60Hz via PC mode. Now it seems there's uncertainty whether the 2015 Evo kit will even work with the F8500.
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That seems highly unlikely. The CMS and internal processing of the F8500 is 4:2:2. It most definitely will not pass a RGB signal through to the panel without downscaling the chroma to 4:2:2 except in PC mode (which disables the CMS and other internal processing). In the back of my mind I was hoping for an EVO kit that would do RGB through to the panel limitation without disabling the CMS or forcing 60Hz via PC mode. Now it seems there's uncertainty whether the 2015 Evo kit will even work with the F8500.
Perhaps it's my player then. I set my OPPO 103D to 4:4:4, run the chroma burst test, and the F8500 has no problem with the 4:4:4 chroma burst patterns. When I did the same with my 5020, Oppo set to 4:4:4, the 5020 would not properly display the chroma burst patterns. Both displays have no problem with the 4:2:2 patterns.
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Well, I'm not familiar with the chroma burst test, so I can't exactly speak to what it means. BTW, this was on a Blu-Ray right, not a DVD?
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Well, I'm not familiar with the chroma burst test, so I can't exactly speak to what it means. BTW, this was on a Blu-Ray right, not a DVD?
Yes, blu ray. Oddly enough, the 103D fails the 4:2:2 chroma burst pattern via HDMI 1, which does the Darbee processing, due to the chip. So if the F8500 can't handle 4:4:4, then the 103D should not be recommended with the F8500 due it's falling the 4:2:2 test. The chroma burst test is used to see if your tv can properly process a 4:4:4 color space, which the F8500 does with no issues.
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Hey guys. Haven't been on for a while. Could anyone give me any update on input lag on newer firmwares and differences between game mode and PC mode as of today. Thanks!
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Hey guys. Haven't been on for a while. Could anyone give me any update on input lag on newer firmwares and differences between game mode and PC mode as of today. Thanks!
No claims have been made with regards to input lag being reduced/modified on any firmware updates. I believe PC mode still has a slight edge over Game mode for less lag, but many gamers can't even notice the difference.
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Samsung plasma wins CNET's accidental burn-in test

http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-plasma-wins-cnets-accidental-burn-in-test/

"We accidentally let a static image run on three plasma TV review samples overnight, and a Samsung beat two Panasonics at avoiding image retention, aka burn-in." More at link.
Even though this was a 2012 article done on 2012 models ( E series and 50 series to be exact ) its surprising to see its relevant to the 2013 models. Fierece_GT even uses his display as a HTPC daily. No IR or burn in for him.

FWIW, i never noticed any IR on my ZT60 unless I purposely tried to get some even after I played and completed Crysis 3 on it. I did get ONE scare on the ZT60 with the Xbox 360 avatar home screen and that was enough to scare me to swap it out for the F8500. For the record, I noticed it was some type of instantaneous IR that, equally as fast, dissolved but judging from the complaints at the time of IR and burn in on the ZT60 line, I didnt want to take a chance considering I was gaming pretty much every night back then.

Few weeks with F8500 has been a smooth ride however. That silent alarm in my head is gone and I no longer worry about what content could cause x-amount of IR. I just watch and enjoy, doesn't matter the channel, station logo, etc. I am missing out on some deeper blacks but OLEDs are here now. No point in having the best now when the best right now ( zt60 )will get absolutely destroyed ( infinite contrast ) by the best ( 65" LG OLED ) in a few months.
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I've noticed some definite IR on my set after playing the same game for an hour. I was playing Afterburner Climax and the energy bar and missiles stayed there for a bit but washed away pretty quickly after watching some full screen tv.
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