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Now that we have moved on to page 397, all is well again.
Page 396 is still a text-based turd though
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Hi guys, I need help with my HT setup. Currently I have

TV - 64F8500
Bluray - Oppo BDP 105D
Receiver - Panasonic SA-XR55
HDMI Swicher - Monoprice 4x1
Apple TV
TVPad 3
Amazon Fire

Since I used OTA Antenna to get local programming, I used the optical out from TV to Oppo. The Oppo was connected to the receiver using the 5.1 RCA analog connection. I'm currently trying to choose between:

a. Put all those streaming devices (ATV, TVPad3, & Amazon Fire), connect them to HDMI switcher & use the HDMI out to Oppo.
b. Get rid of the HDMI switcher, connect them directly to the TV using the HDMI and let the TV get the audio out using the Optical connection to Oppo.

Which one is a better choice?

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Hi guys, I need help with my HT setup. Currently I have

TV - 64F8500
Bluray - Oppo BDP 105D
Receiver - Panasonic SA-XR55
HDMI Swicher - Monoprice 4x1
Apple TV
TVPad 3
Amazon Fire

Since I used OTA Antenna to get local programming, I used the optical out from TV to Oppo. The Oppo was connected to the receiver using the 5.1 RCA analog connection. I'm currently trying to choose between:

a. Put all those streaming devices (ATV, TVPad3, & Amazon Fire), connect them to HDMI switcher & use the HDMI out to Oppo.
b. Get rid of the HDMI switcher, connect them directly to the TV using the HDMI and let the TV get the audio out using the Optical connection to Oppo.

Which one is a better choice?

Thanks
If you choose B, you lose 5.1 from your other devices other than OTA and OPPO when playing Blu Ray. The tv will not send 5.1 audio from Apple TV and Amazon via optical. I do not know what TVPad3 is, but if that has 5.1 capability, you will lose that too.
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If you choose B, you lose 5.1 from your other devices other than OTA and OPPO when playing Blu Ray. The tv will not send 5.1 audio from Apple TV and Amazon via optical. I do not know what TVPad3 is, but if that has 5.1 capability, you will lose that too.
Thanks, I guess A is the way to go.
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Any updates? I still haven't been able to determine if this is a wide spread problem (which tells me it isnt), are you also on Dish?
I have Comcast. Come to think of it, when The Walking Dead looked terrible, I DID have Dish.
Anyway the latest episode of Game of Thrones looked good when I watched the broadcast. Maybe not perfect but good. It seems the issue really lies in the compression. The HBO Go streaming video should certainly be worse. The scene where Daenerys is in the catacombs really exposed the compression. Cable/Dish providers may compress some broadcasts but it probably won't be as much compression as a streaming video.

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Cable/Dish providers may compress some broadcasts but it probably won't be as much compression as a streaming video.
You're correct but cable and dish providers can be pretty egregious in their over-compression as well.

Not as bad as streaming, but there's nothing preventing cable and dish provders from compressing more highly than streaming providers do, either.
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I am pleased to give a report of my recent calibration of my Samsung 64F8500 panel.


The TV is about 1 year old. After it was "burned in" I contacted Chad B for a calibration, and was placed in the queue.


Do not doubt, that I often second-guessed myself on the wisdom of this, and wondered whether I should cancel the calibration request. This 64F8500 replaced an 8G Kuro (that had only been adjusted by me using consumer-level calibrations discs), and after my consumer-level adjustment of the 64F8500, it is was clearly the best picture that I had ever had. So, did I really need to pay for further calibration?


I went through with the commitment, and I am quite happy that I did.


Chad B arrived exactly on time, at 10:00 AM. He proceeded to attached a sensor to the panel and setup a tripod with another sensor.


Time passed, he did his thing. Such a calibration normally takes about 4 hours. However, I had a couple of "troublesome inputs". That took a lot more analysis and time.


Chad B hung in there for 7.5 hours -- 10;00 - 5:30 -- to get everything perfect. I could see his concentration as he was running pattern after pattern, to get the grayscale and the CMS properly setup, for both a night mode and a day mode, on three different inputs.


Whenever I asked what was going on, and how it was going, he gave me a lot of insightful commentary about how the TV was behaving, how the inputs were behaving, and how to deal with it all.


He pretty much killed his entire day, working almost twice as long as usual, bringing my 64F8500 up to his specs, even though he had a 2-hour drive to make after he left my place.


The result is quite amazing. I was a little skeptical that the calibration would significantly improve the picture, even though I decided to go through with it.


It's hard to objectively describe the result. The result is clearly in "Oh My Goodness" territory. The color balance and the contrast / brightness / grayscale is obviously better, but the 2-D picture now has a "3-D" impression that was not present previously. I am not sure what is going on, honestly. I don't care for, and don't watch 3-D, but the sense of depth that the 2-D picture now presents, as well as the accurate colors and white balance, is really quite nice. The picture is cinematic and textured in a way it was not before, and meets the worn cliché that "we see things that we did not see before".

I honesty think that this was the best calibration bargain in my experience.

I highly recommend this calibration.


EDIT: actually, four (4) different inputs counting the Apps (Netflix / Amazon).
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Chad does an excellent job congrats on the great calibration !
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As he came to the wilds of New Hampshire, I expect that he would come to New York.
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I am pleased to give a report of my recent calibration of my Samsung 64F8500 panel.
Ok so I've never really considered getting my TV professionally calibrated. Now that I have this set, I'm interested. Open questions to all…
Is it only worth while if someone of Chad's caliber does it? What do certified calibrators charge (approx range) to calibrate your set? Does everyone else feel that their F8500 looks much better after getting a professional calibration?

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I had Kevin Miller come and do my 51" after I had spent way too long on the recommended settings thread and had even done a DIY calibration with a C3/Calman bundle. While I apparently had it fairly close, I have not regretted having Kevin dial it to "spot on" with his state of the art equipment. The incremental improvement is fairly subtle, but I believe it looks even better than it did before and there is definitely a pleasure I get from knowing I am looking at about as accurate a picture as you can currently get from a TV (apparently the color accuracy is better on the F8500 than on the LG OLED). Kevin took a lot less time than Chad did in the above review, but I have everything on one input and it didn't need a huge amount of tweaking. I have not regretted the money spent.

I can't speak to the quality of the Best Buy calibrators, but I'm not sure I would get the satisfaction of knowing it is spot on if I did not completely trust that the calibrator knows what he or she was doing. For cost-effectiveness, using the C3/Calman bundle and doing it yourself may be cheaper and more fun than other alternatives.
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Ok so I've never really considered getting my TV professionally calibrated. Now that I have this set, I'm interested. Open questions to all…
Is it only worth while if someone of Chad's caliber does it? What do certified calibrators charge (approx range) to calibrate your set? Does everyone else feel that their F8500 looks much better after getting a professional calibration?
There are many qualified calibrators out there. You may have a few where you live. I'm sure someone on this forum could point you in the right direction if they knew where you lived. Chad, D-Nice and others on this forum are the best at what they do. I have had my last 3 TV's calibrated and could never go back to an uncalibrated tv. The first time I had it done, it took a little while to get use to the calibration as my eyes were so accustomed to oversaturated colors. So at first the calibration may catch you off guard, but once you see all the detail that you have been missing, the color accuracy, the better blacks, etc, you will never go back.
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