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post #12031 of 12042 Old 05-18-2015, 03:09 PM
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thanks for the effort.

i still don't think i would do this to mine(i'd need to have a reason, and i don't right now), but i do find it interesting to see what is actually affected and what isn't.

would you say it's safe to say the general effect was getting a brighter, cleaner image at the cost of a more reflective screen. it looks like the black levels and louvered filter are in tact to me.

anyway, if i ever thought my f8500 wasn't already too bright, and had the cleanest image i'd ever seen, i'd probably consider it. there doesn't seem to be any major cons(just more reflective)
brighter and clearer picture and it has better contrast now because of the brighter images and cleaner lines. its like looking into a mirror but i only see that when my lamp is on. all of my gaming is done in pitch black and it looks great. I would have done this first day had I known how good it was going to be. I don't think this would be good in anything but a blackout room but i can still play with no problem at all if my lights above are on just when the light behind me is on that i see reflections. I love it
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This would be news to me. I do not believe these are the same panel. I'd love to be wrong on that, but it seems like it would be pretty well known if it were the case.
They're not, plus it may be in the driving electronics, but the F5300 doesn't do 3D.
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Official Samsung PNxxF8500 Owners Thread (No Street Price Talk)

I may have mis-information then I apologize. I was told by a Samsung tech that they were the same panels from the same production lines without filters. No need to retool to make them. There may be different driving electronics sure but that would make sense if the filters are taken into consideration.

Economically it makes a lot of sense not having to do much R and D and just bang them off no expensive filter application and sell for a nice price

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This would be news to me. I do not believe these are the same panel. I'd love to be wrong on that, but it seems like it would be pretty well known if it were the case.
I think it would be news for a lot of us! Also, video processing is an entirely different animal.

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I may have mis-information then I apologize. I was told by a Samsung tech that they were the same panels from the same production lines without filters. No need to retool to make them. There may be different driving electronics sure but that would make sense if the filters are taken into consideration.

Economically it makes a lot of sense not having to do much R and D and just bang them off no expensive filter application and sell for a nice price
It wouldn't surprise me that they did use the same panel. What would make them different, besides the filter, would be the internals that do all the processing and thus produce better blacks, color accuracy, motion, etc. Members have already been able to make adjustments on cheaper Samsung tv's by opening the back and making voltage adjustments for deeper blacks. One could change the old Pioneer 5020/6020 into Elite like panels by replacing one board with an Elite board, which opened the CMS to tune the cheaper 20 series tv to look as good as the Elites.
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It wouldn't surprise me that they did use the same panel. What would make them different, besides the filter, would be the internals that do all the processing and thus produce better blacks, color accuracy, motion, etc. Members have already been able to make adjustments on cheaper Samsung tv's by opening the back and making voltage adjustments for deeper blacks. One could change the old Pioneer 5020/6020 into Elite like panels by replacing one board with an Elite board, which opened the CMS to tune the cheaper 20 series tv to look as good as the Elites.
The F8500 doesn't have the pink push the F5300 is known for, I see that as a result of the source panel. But maybe not.

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I am going to be able to barrow a Spyder4Pro S4P100 from work to use on my F8500. I have no experience using a colorimeter but I am looking forward to the challenge. It will probably be a slow process as I read best practices and make revisions along the way.
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Setup your kit without ARC.
I'll take a look, I'm not using (at least intentionally) ARC, but I am using HDMI 1 and 2. That could be it.

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So... new panel day. My good luck with pixels continues, but this one is more of a buzzer than the second. It's difficult to say for sure, as this buzz is much more dependent on the display content than the last one. Might be a touch brighter, but then, they dim a little in the first few hundred hours, right?
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I was getting a message in the Smart Hub that 6 apps needed updating.
It would update but the updates would not stick (the update message would return after I powered off).
So I figured my firmware needed to be updated first (I was 2 revs back).
Firmware update went fine but now Hulu+ will not load.
Gives an error message and H+ works fine on the upstairs TV/ROKU ?
I tried all the other apps (Netflix, YouTube, Pandora and so on) and they all work.
My first thought was to delete H+ and re-install but it is hard coded so you cannot delete.
Anyone else had issues with this ??
I'm hoping I don't have to reset the smart hub since it's a pain to setup & log into all the apps.


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If you haven't already tried this, unplug the TV from power and after a few minutes reconnect it.

There have been many instances where this fixes problems with getting apps to work again.

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