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post #12511 of 12530 Old 07-27-2015, 08:06 AM
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I plugged in my Chromecast this weekend to see if there was a quality difference between the built in apps and streaming through chromecast. The difference was pretty noticeable, especially the hbo app which looked MUCH better compared to the built in app. It is also nice to be able to control the black optimiser setting when using chromecast.
I've got one of those chromecast (mostly to play with) devices and am interested in the difference when you consider that chromecast is wifi and my 8500 is ethernet cable.
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I've got one of those chromecast (mostly to play with) devices and am interested in the difference when you consider that chromecast is wifi and my 8500 is ethernet cable.
I notice a big difference with HBO - even despite using wifi (although my router is right under my tv). I did buy the chromecast ethernet adapter though which is set to arrive this week.
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I posted this some time ago but I don't think I got any replies then so I am giving it another shot:
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If I go into the Smart Hub and run the webbrowser (or youtube etc), what picture settings am I using?
The only thing which is not grayed out is the Cell Light setting if I enter the menu.
The only way I have been able to change the other settings is to use Apply Picture Mode->All Sources on another "input" but hopefully that is not the only way, or is it?
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I plugged in my Chromecast this weekend to see if there was a quality difference between the built in apps and streaming through chromecast. The difference was pretty noticeable, especially the hbo app which looked MUCH better compared to the built in app. It is also nice to be able to control the black optimiser setting when using chromecast.
Interesting, I thought the hub's Netflix looked better than Roku3's. Have you compared hbo go to hbo via WMC?
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So I spend 2 months without my PN64F8500. Sold it to someone for a good amount of money, Been researching TV's for a couple of weeks and Cant decided if I wanted the JS9500 or the new Panasonic CX850. Also waiting on the Vizio R series too..... But anyway, Decided to go to Best Buy to see if they had the new Panasonic CX850 on display, and then hidden on the corner was a Open Box PN60F8500!! So just for fun I decided to check the price.... and wow... it was still high (A bit less then what I sold mine for). So I ask for the manager "Why is this open box item so high ??" he ask me "How much are you willing to give me for it" I told him $$$. 10 minutes later on negotiating, they were Loading the PN60F8500 to my truck, now I know it's a floor model, and it has like 9000 hours on it, but it still comes with the 1 year warranty!!! so i'm happy with that for another year. So I own a F8500 again, a little but smaller, but I end up pocketing $$$$. Sorry had to share!








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Thanks! I would know that if I took my copy of the blu-ray out of the cellophane. Maybe this weekend!

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Thanks! I would know that if I took my copy of the blu-ray out of the cellophane. Maybe this weekend!
Does anyone else get bothered by the lightening of the black bars in 2.39:1 movies? I prefer the 16x9 formatted movies just so I don't have the black bars that slowly get to a really dark gray by the end of the movie.

Is that not something others have issues with?

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Does anyone else get bothered by the lightening of the black bars in 2.39:1 movies? I prefer the 16x9 formatted movies just so I don't have the black bars that slowly get to a really dark gray by the end of the movie.

Is that not something others have issues with?
My black bars start black and stay black.

If the color of the bars change it may be your TV and/or the bars become more noticeable to you over the course of a film.
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Does anyone else get bothered by the lightening of the black bars in 2.39:1 movies? I prefer the 16x9 formatted movies just so I don't have the black bars that slowly get to a really dark gray by the end of the movie.

Is that not something others have issues with?
I would not describe things that way. My letterbox bars are always floating depending on the scene displayed in that moment, worst case is a green or blue almoust solid color scene, they rise up to 0,07 cd^mq and it's very annoying. But the real problem is that on my panel in those situations ALL the scene rises it's brightness and returns slowly to normal (~2 seconds) in the subsequent dark scene, so I've every time 2 seconds of decreased contrast. (but i've told all this many many times, and I'm still awaiting for a solution from samsung technician)

anyway my bars do not become black in a progressive way through the whole movie...
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Does anyone else get bothered by the lightening of the black bars in 2.39:1 movies? I prefer the 16x9 formatted movies just so I don't have the black bars that slowly get to a really dark gray by the end of the movie.

Is that not something others have issues with?
I haven't noticed that. I do use a dim bias light behind the TV though.
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Does anyone else get bothered by the lightening of the black bars in 2.39:1 movies? I prefer the 16x9 formatted movies just so I don't have the black bars that slowly get to a really dark gray by the end of the movie.

Is that not something others have issues with?
I've been disappointed with the resting black level on my set as well. The bias lighting makes a huge difference though and it helps with eye strain since this plasma can get so bright. I've got a set of Ikea Dioder led strip lights stuck to the four corners of my set, I've been using the same set of lights since 2010 on two different plasmas. Everyone loves them and asks where to get them. I also like that I can change the color to match the movie mood. (ex. blue for finding nemo, red for V for Vendetta/star wars, white for gravity etc...). They're only $30, if the bars bother you that much I'd highly recommend giving it a try.

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Does anyone else get bothered by the lightening of the black bars in 2.39:1 movies? I prefer the 16x9 formatted movies just so I don't have the black bars that slowly get to a really dark gray by the end of the movie.

Is that not something others have issues with?
i've never noticed that...

when running calibrations, i've noticed an increase from about .009 to .011 cd/m^2. i'm impressed you can detect that, not to mention bothered by it.

i have noticed fluctuating blacks on some occasions though. but the gradual rise in resting blacks is negligible on my set

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If anyone with a 51" has time to spend and a meter, can please measure the black of the letterbox bars at exactly 1 minute from start of the movie sunshine... When there is the sun in the centre in a brown field... Thanks
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Does anyone else get bothered by the lightening of the black bars in 2.39:1 movies? I prefer the 16x9 formatted movies just so I don't have the black bars that slowly get to a really dark gray by the end of the movie.

Is that not something others have issues with?
My black bars don't get lighter during movie. However, in dark scenes the black bars are more noticeable. If you watch movies in a totally dark room, like I do, then you will notice that the black bars are not really black. Your eyes adjust quickly to a totally dark room, and will quite easily notice the plasma glow in dark scenes. Thus the reason for bias lightning to trick your eyes. The F8500 does not have the lowest blacks amongst the top 3 plasmas. Kuros, Panasonic ZT/VT and then the F8500. The other 2 will have better blacks and the black bars appear more black. One way I have adjusted is to crank cell light all the way to 20. Yes, it is brighter, but your eyes don't adjust as quickly going from bright scenes to darks scenes and thus blacks don't appear as grey, most of the time. During prolonged dark scenes, it will still be noticeable. The higher cell light does not bother me. Does not give me headaches, etc. What will also affect your perceived blacks is your eye color. Blue eyes are more sensitive to light, thus you will notice black bars are not as black as you see the plasma glow better.

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Wxman what size do you have of f8500?
64 inch model.
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Does anyone else get bothered by the lightening of the black bars in 2.39:1 movies? I prefer the 16x9 formatted movies just so I don't have the black bars that slowly get to a really dark gray by the end of the movie.

Is that not something others have issues with?
I used to be bothered by this - since the set does have a very low black setting, but not infinite black like OLED, the bars become very noticeable during darker scenes. In bright scenes, they are jet black. I added an ideal-lume bias light, and have been content ever since. My blacks are now black all the time, and I love it!

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I have a pn64f8500 bought in the US. I'm trying to cut the cord and to do it as simply and I expensively as possible. I'd like to just use the slick Smart Hub interface for my OTA and streaming content, but I hate to lose the recording and pause/playback ability of a DVR.

But now I hear that these Samsungs actually have a PVR function with external HDD but it's disabled on American models?! Anybody successfully enable this feature on an American panel? That would be awesome!
I have enabled it and tried it out. There was some discussion in this thread or the series thread about it. Look for a conversation between zoyd and myself; I think it was within the last 6 months.

But in case it saves you some time, here's my final judgement on the feature: There's a good reason it's disabled. It's not very nice to use. The interface for selecting your recordings is just awful. And have you tried the guide? It should already work on your set. When you try to page down, the system immediately becomes overloaded and it can't even keep decoding the live signal while it's thinking. Can you make it work as your only DVR? Yes. Would I recommend it? No, not unless you're on a REALLY tight budget. For 100$ or so, a yard sale Windows 7 PC and a cheap tuner card will give you a MUCH better experience.
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