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Interesting Observation:

I was watching a HOW THE UNIVERSE WORKS episode the other night on the Science Channel and something really interesting happened. Here's the episode:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3831260/

It's the episode that details how light escapes from the core of the Sun....at the 32-minute mark a closeup-up of the Sun fills the screen in some greenish-spectrum.

What was interesting is that on my Samsung 5300 I could see the Pentile array on my 60" from about 10 feet away. I never saw it before except when I was 2-3 feet from the TV. I don't know if it was because of the green Sun spectrum or just being 1 color entirely filling the screen.

Anyway....if anybody with an 8500 can watch that episode and let me know how it looks on the 8500's screen, I'd be curious how it looks. You need to go to the episode above and fast-forward to the 32-minute mark.
i've watched that show before, on the f8500 and did not notice anything, but it's a 720p downloaded version. not that i would expect to see anything on the f8500 anyway. i'm pretty sure the green is the most noticeable on the pentile structure, and that's probably why it's the only time you've noticed it so far

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I have a pn64f8500 bought in the US. I'm trying to cut the cord and to do it as simply and I expensively as possible. I'd like to just use the slick Smart Hub interface for my OTA and streaming content, but I hate to lose the recording and pause/playback ability of a DVR.

But now I hear that these Samsungs actually have a PVR function with external HDD but it's disabled on American models?! Anybody successfully enable this feature on an American panel? That would be awesome!
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Ended up having time before dinner.


Bluray was paused at exactly 1:00 mins into the movie.


I have the 51 inch and used a iD3. Black optimizer is set to Auto. Contrast is 96, Brightness 47, and Cell light 14. Cinema Smooth was on.


I took three readings of the center of the top letterbox. All were identical 0.045 cd/m3 or 0.0131 ftL. If you are curious the center of the sun in the picture came out to 130.420 cd/m3 or 38.0678 ftL.


Only thing I didn't do was calibrate the meter before starting the test since I didn't want to bother with test patterns. I don't think it would matter though.

Ok with your settings I get a black bar as high as 0,085 cd/m2, and strangely the sun is "only" at 112cd.
so my panel is somewhat defective, this is the reason why I am so annoyed with floatings. Now would be nice to know if it's the panel itself, or some kind of elecronics (Y board like some 1 suggested)
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Ok with your settings I get a black bar as high as 0,085 cd/m2, and strangely the sun is "only" at 112cd.
so my panel is somewhat defective, this is the reason why I am so annoyed with floatings. Now would be nice to know if it's the panel itself, or some kind of elecronics (Y board like some 1 suggested)
Has it always been this way? I suppose it could be a voltage issue but I 've never seen one do something like that.

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Does anyone need a 60" stand? I have an extra, just the stand, no brackets or hardware. You can pick it up in northern MA.

Back story: I posted on here a while back that the original stand was wobbly but turns out the furniture is bowed from the last TV. I wouldn't have known except I just recently moved and had to take the stand off and I confirmed the original one was perfectly fine.
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i've watched that show before, on the f8500 and did not notice anything, but it's a 720p downloaded version. not that i would expect to see anything on the f8500 anyway. i'm pretty sure the green is the most noticeable on the pentile structure, and that's probably why it's the only time you've noticed it so far
Could be, it was a textbook-example of SDE that I can recall seeing since the days of huge RPTV's back in the early-1990's.
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if this is the only time you're noticing it, then it's what we've been describing as 'floating' or 'fluctuating' blacks. when the APL of the scene increases, so does the black level. when the content is near all black, blacks should look very good. when there's bright content on the screen, it blasts your irises making mediocre blacks still look black. it's the stuff in the middle where there's just enough overall brightness to raise the black levels, but nothing in particular that's really bright to blast your eyes, that's when the letterbox bars will look grey.

but that could happen at the start of the movie, the middle, or the end. it has nothing to do with blacks rising over time, it's entirely dependent on what's being displayed

there is a thread dedicated to this phenomena, it's definitely worth reading, if for no other reason than to understand what is happening. Patterns to measure MLL as a function of APL
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Ok with your settings I get a black bar as high as 0,085 cd/m2, and strangely the sun is "only" at 112cd.
so my panel is somewhat defective, this is the reason why I am so annoyed with floatings. Now would be nice to know if it's the panel itself, or some kind of elecronics (Y board like some 1 suggested)
before jumping to conclusions, have you calibrated your set? somebody having brightness set at 46 will be correct, for another person it'll be too high, or too low. some of it will depend on your source as well.

if you're sure you've got your brightness set correctly, and contrast, gamma, cell light, etc and still come up that much short. then it might be worth looking at the back panel voltages.

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Yes my set is calibrated. And I also tried to play with Vs and Vstab, the black improved a bit, but I had other problems so preferred to return @default anyway the floating was annoying the same. Practically I think my panel curve abl/mll raises earlier than others.
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Does anyone need a 60" stand? I have an extra, just the stand, no brackets or hardware. You can pick it up in northern MA.

Back story: I posted on here a while back that the original stand was wobbly but turns out the furniture is bowed from the last TV. I wouldn't have known except I just recently moved and had to take the stand off and I confirmed the original one was perfectly fine.
I could us the stand. I wouldn't mind paying for shipping.
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