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So one or two? And are they exhausting air out or blowing air in?

Found this that looks like it would do the job nicely,
AC Infinity MULTIFAN S7, Quiet Dual 120mm USB Fan for Receiver DVR Playstation Xbox Computer Cabinet Cooling

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these look nice, I bet two of these on the medium setting would do the job nicely.

how did you secure them to the back of the TV?

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these look nice, I bet two of these on the medium setting would do the job nicely.

how did you secure them to the back of the TV?
Checkout my picture on the previous page. Others may have other options.

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these look nice, I bet two of these on the medium setting would do the job nicely.

how did you secure them to the back of the TV?
http://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Cable-.../dp/B002C0SKBW
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There are postings in this thread and other PNxxF8500 threads about placement of fans and in particular this type which is speed adjustable:
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B...ilpage_o00_s00


I put 4 of these USB fans (2 on each side) directly above the two heatsinks (no mistake where the heat is if you put your hand on the backside of the TV). They brought my temps from the 42-44 C range to 31-32.
Too, I have my PN60F8500 on a swivel mount and keep it 6” or so from the wall.
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http://www.coolerguys.com/840556090557.html

what do you guys think about these?

I used stuff from these guys for my media cabinet and they have been real good.

even though they are 80MM, I think with two it would do the trick, looks like they have low dB and move some decent mount of air

I think I'll give them a try and report back my findings of before and after panel temp

not bad 18.79 shipped for two fans wired together for 1 USB port.

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http://www.coolerguys.com/840556090557.html

what do you guys think about these?
I'd get a manual speed adjustment for those fans...at max power, you will hear those fans blowing....unless you want to hear fan noise.
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I'd get a manual speed adjustment for those fans...at max power, you will hear those fans blowing....unless you want to hear fan noise.
I think I'll be ok, I have 5 120 mm fans going in the media cabinet. I have my tv only going through my yamaha so with that on you don't hear anything that as low as 20 dB...

I went with these for more ease of set-up, cost, etc. I think they will move enough air, but I'll see what the panel temps have to say about that

I think two of them will move plenty of air from that small rear panel

I can always add the manual speed deal afterwards I suppose http://www.coolerguys.com/840556099116.html

I'll report back how they work out

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I have those Coolerguys 120MM USB fans on my VT50. Cannot hear them as they are 19.7dB.
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So one or two? And are they exhausting air out or blowing air in?

Found this that looks like it would do the job nicely,
AC Infinity MULTIFAN S7, Quiet Dual 120mm USB Fan for Receiver DVR Playstation Xbox Computer Cabinet Cooling

Thanks!
I bought these. They are surprisingly nice. I couldn't figure out a way to mount them without getting some humming sound (I'm surprisingly picky about sound). Then I sold my F8500 after having reoccuring issues. Frankly, I'm really bummed it is gone and hope I can snag a 1080p OLED before LG stops making them, (if it gets to 1k, I'm all in).

The are in a box downstairs--I'd gladly sell them to you. I'm not really sure what I'll use them for at this point.

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Spring for two 120 fans, to exhaust from a larger surface area.

Tied two similar to this to the top back corner above the ports. Two 120's, adjacent to the bend, were a perfect fit on the 64". They're slim and come in different speed/noise ratings. Buy the fastest, then use a USB to 3-4 pin adapter/splitter for power. The adapter/splitter will slow the fans and cut the dba of each by approximately 50%.

http://www.amazon.com/Scythe-Slip-St.../dp/B002CYPWTG

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16995/

The adapter example above has only one 3/4 pin plug; don't recall if i split that or found a USB adapter with two plugs.

I have an ac infinity 2 fan cooler placed on the top of my receiver and the fans were too loud for my taste, so I swapped the fans for Sythe's, iirc.
I like this, especially the low profile aspect. In fact, lots of good suggestions, thanks guys.

I'm thinking a couple of those thin fans with a speed controller to keep the noise down should do the job. I already some of those bits and pieces here so I'll be ordering the fans today. I also already have a package of 8 of these to keep the noise down(rattling against the display's back cover, though, that will likely reduce the excavation of air by setting the fans off of the cover a bit. I'll try it without first and see if there's any significant noise. 'll post up a pic or two when I get it running.

P.S. I'm also thinking about Noctua fans, a bit pricey but they are really quiet, I've used several in some server build I've done.

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Can someone give me a couple shots of where you mounted the fans?

Seems hottest point is on the left side if your facing the front of the tv, is that the most important area to cool?

Did you put the fans flat on the back or towards the top near the ledge?

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Can someone give me a couple shots of where you mounted the fans?

Seems hottest point is on the left side if your facing the front of the tv, is that the most important area to cool?

Did you put the fans flat on the back or towards the top near the ledge?

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how many USB ports do we have on the TV, or if you get two fans do the chain from fan to fan so you only need 1 USB port?
there are two 0.5A and one 1A rated usb port. I only use two of them with single fan connected to each one
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so, last week i did the update to fw 1211 which comes with the new os(i guess you'd call it?). update went fine, but i'm noticing now that i can only access the smart menu about 20-30seconds after the tv starts up. if i try any sooner than that i get a dialog box that reads 'the smart menu is updating, try again later'.

the only reason this is an issue for me, is that i have absolutely no cable. the only source i use now is a htpc and the smart features(most of my 'cable' channels are 'on the go apps'). so when i push 'watch tv' on my harmony, it's programmed to turn on the tv and go into the smart menu. that no longer works.

i've downloaded fw 1206 from the samsung canada site(kind of surprised to see it was available actually), but before i install that(hoping i can) i'm just curious if anybody else has experienced this, or if it's perhaps not related to the fw at all.

i have to say, overall that tizen os should be pretty nice, but i haven't figured out how to get rid of the 20 useless apps that pop up on the scroll bar. with those still there, it's much quicker to go into the full menu and use it like the old os. so right now, i'm not thrilled with it

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i've downloaded fw 1206 from the samsung canada site(kind of surprised to see it was available actually), but before i install that(hoping i can)
You can't downgrade without first rooting and then using a downgrade technique available on the samygo.tv forums. I would be interested in whether you are able to root 1211.
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so, last week i did the update to fw 1211 which comes with the new os(i guess you'd call it?)
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i have to say, overall that tizen os should be pretty nice
I thought it's not really tizen but just older os mimicking it
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Sorry I don't.
(I attached mine by simply looping twist ties through the vent holes of the TV and the fan screw holes).
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I like this, especially the low profile aspect. In fact, lots of good suggestions, thanks guys.
Wire ties hold the fans flush against the back and don't introduce add'l resonance when used with plastic framed fans; those rubber mounts look OK if they'll securely fasten. Prefer the low profile fans for my app because tv is mounted only a couple of inches from the wall.

Nocturas are the ones I swapped in to replace ones that came with the ac coolers used on my amp and avr.
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I'm using 5 Thermaltake AF0007 120mm fans with USB connectors that have a fan speed adjustment dial. Mine are running at 1000 rpm and can barely hear them at very low (TV) volumes which is a rare occasion with my 5:2 GE HT. I believe it's best to connect fans flush with the back panel using zip-ties. Pulled tight you get a somewhat sealed connection with minimal vibration.

I posted earlier that I have 3 exhaust fans on top and 2 intake at panel bottom while achieving operating temps of 34-36C, which is pretty good living in Florida. Personally I wouldn't go with 80mm fans, they just don't move as much air as with 120mm, 33% percent less.
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I thought it's not really tizen but just older os mimicking it
i have no experience with tizen. all i know is there's a 'overlay' version of the apps now, and it's really not as useful as it should be because other than the 3 'last used' that pop up, i'm forced to scroll through dozens of unused apps to select anything else. it's quicker to go into the old menu and do it the old way. except now it's not a simple 1-button press to get into the old menu

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You can't downgrade without first rooting and then using a downgrade technique available on the samygo.tv forums. I would be interested in whether you are able to root 1211.
too bad, i was kind of hoping i could just do a factory reset and then 'update' the fw to an older version. i was putting off this update, but had not heard any complaints so i went for it.

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i have no experience with tizen. all i know is there's a 'overlay' version of the apps now, and it's really not as useful as it should be because other than the 3 'last used' that pop up, i'm forced to scroll through dozens of unused apps to select anything else. it's quicker to go into the old menu and do it the old way. except now it's not a simple 1-button press to get into the old menu
You are able to pin whatever apps you want to the locations on the button of the screen that pops up. Thats what I did for my plex app using the harmony remote. I do not have it boot up directly to an app right now but should work with a delay set in. I have it boot to antenna and then have a sequence set to a button to open specific apps.
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You are able to pin whatever apps you want to the locations on the button of the screen that pops up. Thats what I did for my plex app using the harmony remote. I do not have it boot up directly to an app right now but should work with a delay set in. I have it boot to antenna and then have a sequence set to a button to open specific apps.
sorry, are you talking about the 'overlay' or the full screen? i've set up my apps on the full screen page(the one we've always had) and was happy with how that one worked. with the new 'feature' where you just get an overlay, it seems to keep a list of 'recently used' apps, but i have not found a way to set a favourites list or anything like that. and in order to get back into the full page screen(which i think i still need to use in order to watch locally stored media) requires a few keystrokes to navigate into.


before the update, i'd launch the activity and would be taken to the home screen of the smart menu. it wouldn't launch an app directly, but it would put them at my fingertips ready to go. since the update, i just get the dialog box saying the smart menu is updating, and then a 'no signal' screen(or my htpc if it's still on). and pressing the media hub button only gets me the overlay menu, not the full page that i find much easier to navigate

re-reading what you wrote, i'm now wondering if you are talking about the harmony remote's 'screen' not the tv 'screen'. i have the smart keyboard, so no screen. it worked great for what i had, since it was primarily my HTPC, and a few apps on the tv i was constantly using the keyboard anyway, figured all i needed was to add the ability to turn devices on and select inputs.

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