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post #14041 of 14049 Old 07-17-2017, 07:22 PM
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You should only upgrade if you want to have the best and most capable TV in the world. If money is not a concern keep the F8500 and put it in another room. I'd say its worth a grand.
Man, if I could get 1k for my 60f8500 id probably take it. I have an oled on the way and have to decide to keep our 55" lcd in the bonus room or swap. Might sell the plasma and keep the lcd since the kids use it mostly and it would probably have burn in from disney infinity in a week.
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Hello,

I have a TV from US (PN51F8500). I have investigated to change the boards to make it an european TV (I live in Europe) and get the CI+ slot. I will change the main board which has CI slot and hopefully also firmware and video standard for Europe.
I have verified that the following boards are the same between PN51F8500 and PS51F8500:
- Y-main: LJ41-10341A LJ92-01968A
- X-main: LJ41-10340A LJ92-01967A
- power supply: BN44-00619A
- y-buffer: LJ41-10339A / LJ92-01966A

1. Has anybody tried something like this?
2. I would your help to verify the rest of the boards: x-buffer and if I am missing something else and of course the panel. Can someone help me with the codes from remaining boards? and panel of PS51F8500? Also the code of panel for PN51F8500?
Thank you.
I would assume since the TV already supports the various EU timings with the US board, swapping the main to a EU board SHOULD do the trick. But I would probably still swap the power board if you are going to a region with 50hz 220v since the power board in the US should be 60hz 110v or else you will need to buy a step down converter with frequency adjustment.

DISCLOSURE: I have never heard of someone doing this, so I'm just making assumptions based on logic.

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I would assume since the TV already supports the various EU timings with the US board, swapping the main to a EU board SHOULD do the trick. But I would probably still swap the power board if you are going to a region with 50hz 220v since the power board in the US should be 60hz 110v or else you will need to buy a step down converter with frequency adjustment.

DISCLOSURE: I have never heard of someone doing this, so I'm just making assumptions based on logic.
I ordered the mainboard from ebay UK.
The power is not necessary to change as actually on the power board it is written to fit 110-220V.
This part with the power board tricked the possibility in my head.
In 10 days I will see if it works.
If is does it will open the possibility to find easier other spare parts between US and EU models.
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I ordered the mainboard from ebay UK.
The power is not necessary to change as actually on the power board it is written to fit 110-220V.
This part with the power board tricked the possibility in my head.
In 10 days I will see if it works.
If is does it will open the possibility to find easier other spare parts between US and EU models.
are you sure about the power board? because I just looked at my PN51F8500 Version UW01 and the power board rating says 110v-120v 50/60Hz. So you won't need frequency adjustment, but you still need to deal with the voltage change. If you plug a board designed for 110-120v into a 220-240v outlet, you are going to fry the the thing.

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are you sure about the power board? because I just looked at my PN51F8500 Version UW01 and the power board rating says 110v-120v 50/60Hz. So you won't need frequency adjustment, but you still need to deal with the voltage change. If you plug a board designed for 110-120v into a 220-240v outlet, you are going to fry the the thing.
Thank you noticing that to me!
In last year I have used this TV with transformer from 220->110.
It is quite heavy for me to take down by myself from the wall to make the check now and I will continue to have it as a back-up solution.
Next week when I open the TV for main-board change I will ask the technician to double check the power supply beside writings and if any uncertainty I will keep the transformer.
The 2 power-board that I found in Europe "BN44-00619A" were written 110-220V.
Main aspect is to see that the main-bord will be compatible with all other existing boards.
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So I had all 3 of my sets calibrated by D-Nice on Wednesday. What an awesome experience. He was extremely nice, helpful, professional, good at explaining what was going on and good conversation about tech in general. I ended up having some concerns about weird things I was seeing (I have my 2 51s right next to each other on identical stands) between the two sets last night when I was comparing them. I sent D an email with pictures and descriptions; he called me (literally) within 2-3 mins of receiving the email. We talked about what I was seeing and we went through different things. Boom, 1 hour from the time I sent the email and the "problem" was fixed.

His reputation certainly precedes him and I understand why so many people on here think so highly of him (you do get that by reading the content of his posts and what others say about him to an extent, but there's no substitute for a first-hand experience). I have an interest in learning how to calibrate and he was helpful in talking about different aspects (whether to take ISF class, what entry-level equipment I should buy, etc).

All around 10/10 experience. If I need a calibrator in the future, he will no doubt be my choice.

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So I had all 3 of my sets calibrated by D-Nice on Wednesday. What an awesome experience. He was extremely nice, helpful, professional, good at explaining what was going on and good conversation about tech in general. I ended up having some concerns about weird things I was seeing (I have my 2 51s right next to each other on identical stands) between the two sets last night when I was comparing them. I sent D an email with pictures and descriptions; he called me (literally) within 2-3 mins of receiving the email. We talked about what I was seeing and we went through different things. Boom, 1 hour from the time I sent the email and the "problem" was fixed.

His reputation certainly precedes him and I understand why so many people on here think so highly of him (you do get that by reading the content of his posts and what others say about him to an extent, but there's no substitute for a first-hand experience). I have an interest in learning how to calibrate and he was helpful in talking about different aspects (whether to take ISF class, what entry-level equipment I should buy, etc).

All around 10/10 experience. If I need a calibrator in the future, he will no doubt be my choice.
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On my first plasma, back in '08, Jeff Meier calibrated my old '650' and also did a splendid job. As that one was done in my home, I was able to learn a lot about calibration from Jeff as he did his thing. I learned quite a bit about speaker placement and room treatments during our discussions as well. I would highly recommend either gentleman for their work, knowledge and professionalism.

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So I had all 3 of my sets calibrated by D-Nice on Wednesday. What an awesome experience. He was extremely nice, helpful, professional, good at explaining what was going on and good conversation about tech in general. I ended up having some concerns about weird things I was seeing (I have my 2 51s right next to each other on identical stands) between the two sets last night when I was comparing them. I sent D an email with pictures and descriptions; he called me (literally) within 2-3 mins of receiving the email. We talked about what I was seeing and we went through different things. Boom, 1 hour from the time I sent the email and the "problem" was fixed.

His reputation certainly precedes him and I understand why so many people on here think so highly of him (you do get that by reading the content of his posts and what others say about him to an extent, but there's no substitute for a first-hand experience). I have an interest in learning how to calibrate and he was helpful in talking about different aspects (whether to take ISF class, what entry-level equipment I should buy, etc).

All around 10/10 experience. If I need a calibrator in the future, he will no doubt be my choice.
Awesome! Learning to calibrate is a lifelong skill that few have. Even at the amateur level you can achieve excellent results.
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Intermittent problem with pattern of vertical bars across image; purple tinted whites

Hi folks, I have a conundrum. My PN64F8500 is malfunctioning and I'm hoping to get some hints about what's wrong before I bring in a repair person.
Please see the attached image for reference. The problem does not always occur and it is difficult to predict when it will happen, but it may be more frequent during warm weather (I'm not completely sure about that though).
What happens is this:
  • The entire screen becomes somewhat dimmer than normal.
  • The image becomes altered by a pattern of stationary fuzzy-edged vertical bars visible across the entire image, in a washboard pattern. The vertical distortion consists of slightly lighter vs. darker "bars" on the image, in a precise pattern across the whole image. These bars are subtle and have blurry edges and are not part of the normal image when my screen is behaving as it should (i.e, this is not just a uniformity issue).
  • The colors become somewhat "rosy" and off, which is the most problematic aspect. Specifically: some shades of white become rosy or purple in hue.
  • Some parts of the image seem to pulsate or flicker, at a regular rate (the pulsation is about 5 times per second).

The problem tends to start after the TV has been on for a while (10 or 20 minutes), but sometimes, it's there right from the get go. Strangely, sometimes I notice that the problem has gone away by itself an hour or two of use. The malfunction is always either on or off -- there is no in-between.

Any clue as to what's going on? Most of the things I've found about this TV malfunctioning are related to bad capacitors, and I haven't found anything like this. I've seen a few posts about problems with the Control Board (T-CON?) or the LVDS cable on non-plasma sets, that look kind of similar to this.
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