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This may be covered elsewhere. Couldn't find much. I need app. 40tvs for a restaurant/bar and am deciding what TV. Obviously cost is important. With that said is the Panasonic professional or LG or Samsung lines worth it or am I better off going with say a S series Panasonic and Saving the money. Oh and anyone know of bulk dealers?
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This may be covered elsewhere. Couldn't find much. I need app. 40tvs for a restaurant/bar and am deciding what TV. Obviously cost is important. With that said is the Panasonic professional or LG or Samsung lines worth it or am I better off going with say a S series Panasonic and Saving the money. Oh and anyone know of bulk dealers?
Thnx,
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Hey Matt:

Commercial panels are built to run 24/7, 365 days a year. They also have longer warranties than regular consumer grade panels. If you use a regular television in a commercial environment, and have an issue with it, in most cases, your warranty is void. I'm sure if you contact Panasonic, LG, Samsung, and Sharp also, they can direct you to a local or regional distributor. I'm sure if you need 40 panels, any of these vendors should be able to take care of you.

http://www.panasonic.com/business-solutions/buy-lcd-plasma-displays.asp

https://wws.lg.com/us/commercial/contact-display

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/contact_us.html#wrap

http://www.sharpusa.com/ForBusiness/PresentationProducts/ProfessionalLCDMonitors/ContactUs.aspx

http://www.necdisplay.com/reseller-locator


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Ok thank you......I gave Panasonic a call and waiting there call back. I spoke with a friend who recently opened two restaurants and did not like the professional Panasonics pic and went with a toshiba 050x60 and likes them even better. Said the pic was better and lasted up just as well. Any suggestion?
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No real advice from me except consider the energy cost. Just bought a Samsung 43F4500 plasma that came with a sticker saying it would use $14 a year in electricity, based on whatever metric it is that the Energy Star guidelines dictate, which is less than a lot of LCD's in the same size range. The $379 retail cost seemed like a good deal for one; I imagine there'd be a discount for as many as you're talking about.
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That's pretty solid advice I have to look into that for sure. Thank you
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Off topic a bit, but it's kind of amazing .. this Samsung 43 inch plasma is replacing a 5 year old, 32 inch Sony Bravia LCD, and it weighs about the same or less, uses less electricity, and puts out less heat ..
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Ok thank you......I gave Panasonic a call and waiting there call back. I spoke with a friend who recently opened two restaurants and did not like the professional Panasonics pic and went with a toshiba 050x60 and likes them even better. Said the pic was better and lasted up just as well. Any suggestion?

The next time you visit a fast food restaurant, sports bar, or airport, take a look at the displays in those locations. I see a lot of NEC panels, and displays from LG. I could not locate the part number for the Toshiba you mentioned, but here's a link:

http://www.toshibadisplays.com/Commercial_Displays.htm

All of the commercial panels do a great job at what they do - broadcast stuff to the public all day and all night. I'd suggest taking a look at a few sets from different vendors - if possible, ask them if you can evaluate them for a short period before making your final decision. What size screens were you looking for?


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I'm thinking 50inch. There seems to be some 50inch for $500 that I hear will perform well enough. Not sure if I can justify twice the price for commercial when buying in bulk like that.
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I'm thinking 50inch. There seems to be some 50inch for $500 that I hear will perform well enough. Not sure if I can justify twice the price for commercial when buying in bulk like that.

There's the rub - if you spend $500 on a regular consumer grade LCD, and it goes south after the warranty expires, then spend another $500 to replace it, it makes more sense to spend a little bit more to avoid performance hassles down the road. On the other hand, for $500, some suggestions:

At the $500 price point, you're looking at a plasma panels - if you bump it up to $600 - then you get into LED panels. Some examples:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+51%26%2334%3B+Class+(50-3/4%26%2334%3B+Diag.)+-+Plasma+-+720p+-+600Hz+-+HDTV/8240051.p?id=1218866284933&skuId=8240051
51 inch Samsung 720p plasma

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-50PN4500-50-Inch-Plasma/dp/B00BBAFUMQ/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1373550737&sr=8-13&keywords=50+inch+tv
50 inch LG 720p plasma


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Yea I think I have to price them out with warranties, get warranties so all have 5yrs and see the price point. I'd imagine though the ones you listed would cost me approximately $20,000 b4 warranty and commercial will be around $40,000 b4 warranty. I would consider spending more on LED as correct me if I'm wrong are much more energy efficient then plasma. Over a 5 year period I'd imagine I'd have some substantial savings. As if its not hard enough to decide lol
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As mentioned earlier, some plasmas are more energy efficient than LCDs of the same size ..

A friend recently bought a new Vizio at Costco that came with a 3 year warranty, and, if I'm remembering correctly, he was able to add 3 more years of coverage for $60
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As mentioned earlier, some plasmas are more energy efficient than LCDs of the same size ..

A friend recently bought a new Vizio at Costco that came with a 3 year warranty, and, if I'm remembering correctly, he was able to add 3 more years of coverage for $60

A couple of post ago, I mentioned the commercial use of a consumer grade panel. See below as it pertains to a Vizio panel:

http://store.vizio.com/support
TV Warranty Details
ONE-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY ON PARTS AND LABOR

Covers units purchased as new in United States and Puerto Rico Only.

VIZIO provides a warranty to the original purchaser of a new Product against defects in materials and workmanship for a period of one year of non-commercial usage and ninety (90) days of commercial use. If a Product covered by this warranty is determined to be defective within the warranty period, VIZIO will either repair or replace the unit at its sole option and discretion.


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Panasonic pro panels used to be the best for picture quality over the Panasonic consumer sets, however today Panasonic consumer sets offer the same if not higher PQ.

I see more and more normal TV's being used in your situation.

I think warranties are now about the same if not better, with some bringing up to 6 years warranty in the UK.
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Yes the main selling point with commercial is the warranty. However extended warranties cover consumer ones. So might be cost effective for me to go that route.
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Just looked up the $59.99 Costco TV warranty deal online, and my friend may have explained it poorly, but it still adds up to 6 years, at least for home use (1 year from the manufacturer + 5 from Costco). And maybe for this restaurant application too, as terms mentioned heavy industrial use was not covered, but operating on a wall in an air conditioned space doesn't seem like heavy industrial use to me ..

http://www.costco.com/.product.11660857.html?cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-itempageVerticalRight-_-CategorySiloedViewCP&cm_vc=itempageVerticalRight%7CCategorySiloedViewCP
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I just checked and for tv's under $500 warranties are only $30 for five total.....unfortunately you have to buy the tv's from Costco and I was able to get a price for 50in LG for $440 a piece and the Samsung for $452 a piece from ABT
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Just looked up the $59.99 Costco TV warranty deal online, and my friend may have explained it poorly, but it still adds up to 6 years, at least for home use (1 year from the manufacturer + 5 from Costco). And maybe for this restaurant application too, as terms mentioned heavy industrial use was not covered, but operating on a wall in an air conditioned space doesn't seem like heavy industrial use to me ..

http://www.costco.com/.product.11660857.html?cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-itempageVerticalRight-_-CategorySiloedViewCP&cm_vc=itempageVerticalRight%7CCategorySiloedViewCP
I'm pretty sure that a restaurant, where the TVs will be in use 12 hours a day (or more) would qualify as heavy use. I would check with the Costco Concierge before buying into that.


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