I was having no issues with getting the tc-p50st60 as I looked at that and I looked at the Samsung 8500 but that was 1599.00 last week and now 1899.00 now. and really the rwiews of it where not a ton better,other than the processer (4 core) that help mostly when gaming, and I'll not be doing that, that gets done on a oldschool zenith 27" tube tv
paying 1600 for a tv I was ready for as the old plasma that died was almost 6000.00 retail, I paid 4200 as it was a scratch and dent unit(scratch was on the back left side edge and top back at the cases curve, not an issue when it's hanging on the wall above a 4" fireplace mantel...
after looking at the t.v.s at pauls tv/bestbuy/sears and coming home and the wife asking if I found anything. I said yes. and the next day after work brought her to a store to show her them, BIG MISTAKE.
As when we got back in the car, I got the 1600 for a tv, 999 for a tv, even the "s" at 649.00. and why can't we buy a 399.00 tv (like the Panasonic 720p plasma) And explaining the tech side of it is lost on her. a tv picture is a tv picture to her. until of course we are watching one of her sifi channels or movies then HA!!!
If I was single like I was when I bought the old tv, I'd have mostlikely walked in to the store, and bought a 3-4000 tv and ended up with a led/lcd tv and later found it was a mistake, as most places are pushing the led TV's hard. so having to get the tv "approved" by the otherhalf wasn't all bad, it made me research more.
So it looks like I've got the "ok" to buy the tc-p50st60 As I emailed her the cnet reviews of both and the amazon listings that have customer reviews of both with the tc-p50s60 reviews have'n many pointing out that the "st" would've been a better choice if you have the extra 300 to spend. Then I did the best used car salesman skit I could pointing out if the new t.v. last as long as the old one,say 10 years it's only 100.00 a year even if it old last 5 it's only 200.00 a year, I'm like what's our cable and internet bill a month? and got a dirty look
And got the o.k. to get the one I want but "don't you dare come home with that 1900 Samsung"
The reason I was sticking with the 50" models is the house has a mahogany fireplace mantel, that was painted by one of the owners, and we stripped it of the 8 layers of paint (who paints a mahogany wood mantel???????) and then build a frame to match for the t.v. luckily the old t.v(42") has the speakers on the sides making the t.v. 48" wide leaving enough room for todays plasma sizes as not to many 42" plasmas anymore and the new 42" ones with the speakers on the back/bottom would look lost in the frame. Just so happens that the 50-51" TV's are about 46.5-48.5" case size and will only have to add a spacer to the bottom as the Panasonic is 27.5 tall and frame has 27.25 aval. and an 1-1.5"spacer(curved faced board to match the mantel) should do it or just spacers on the sides and middle with speaker grill material running across the front, if as I think, the speakers are at the bottom facing down.. but that is cake.
oops, sorry about the "book" of a reply..
just want to say again thanks and glad I found this site. As I'm sure I'll have some more questions on other equipment as time goes on.. and I plan on opening the old tv up and looking for the problem as the (I'm guessing here) relay that would "click" when powering on from standby would click 3-5 times, that started 2 months ago as it always was one click. So I'm thinking relay or power surply and if something simple it go in the basement game/display room