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post #1 of 32 Old 09-11-2013, 08:04 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi all,

I'm sure this isn't a new topic, but here goes.

I have a Panasonic TC-P60VT60, I love this TV. Incredible picture. I bought it about 2 1/2 months ago, it has about 650 hrs on it.

Now has burn in from the Disney Channel's static logo.

My kids watch that channel quite a bit, but I mix it up with 2D and 3D movies, + other channels without logos.

Last night I noticed the burn in, I'm hoping that it's just IR, but I've been running the color slides, screen wipe and watching other full screen content for almost 20 hours and the image is still there.


I hate those friggin' ears!


Does anyone have suggestions, Panny pretty much told me I was S.O.L.

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The slides will not help, stick to the screen wipe or buy the Disney WOW disc and use the pixel flipper. Just let them run when you are not using the TV. And don't stress to much, burn in is pretty rare these days.
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Thanks for the support. I'll try the Disney WOW disk and let the group know what happens. The irony of using a Disney product to fix this is not lost on me!

I know burn in is rare, but I've been watching other programing for over 24 hours now, and the image is still there. I'm a bit upset about this, but like I said. I'll try the WOW disk and let the group know.

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Update.........

I've been running Disney's WOW pixel flipper and the image is still there. I'd call this one burnt in.

I'll call panasonic (again) to see what they are willing to do, but my guess is that I'll have to look at those damn ears for the life of this set.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, the only upside, is that no one else in my family notices them, but I can't help but staring at the logo.
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Did the image fade at all? If it did then it is more likely stubborn IR, if it looks the same it might be burn in. How long did you run the wow disc?
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I can't tell if the image has faded, if it has, it's been very slight. I've run pixel flipper four times, each for four hours, since that's when the TV shuts off without new input. I'm running it again now, but the last time it ran was overnight, stopped about 6 hours ago.
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Sorry to hear that... This also scares me. I have the same TV and a 19 month old son, I know those ears all to well.
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Be vigilant. Disney does not keep the logo on 100% of the time, but it's very bright and can obviously do some damage over time.

Panny just referred me to a service center in my area. They said that burn in & IR are not covered by warrantee and the fix is to replace the panel, which costs more than replacing the set.

I'll keep running pixel flipper in the hopes that it will work over time. Have you heard of stubborn IR lasting for this length of time?
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Yes some IR can take weeks to get rid of, with running pixel flipper running 8+ hours a day.
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Thanks,

I'll keep trying and post the results.
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You might want to use a different picture mode with less contrast while watching the Disney station going forward.

In the meantime, a lot of patience will be required if it can be removed. I ran the pixel flipper literally 7 days straight on my ST30 with contrast at max....it didn't make a dent on The History Channel logo which I considered burn-in by that point. If I ran it for a month straight, maybe it would have removed it, but it wasn't a big enough deal to me.

I did have some IR on my VT60 and ran the pixel flipper....after 13 hours removed most of it.

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Thanks for the input.

I've already turned down the contrast and brightness. I was using CNET's settings which had the contrast at 80. I've since turned it down to 60, I may go less.

Patience!!!! HAHAHA I have none, but also have no choice.

Stay Tuned..........
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tcp55vt60 cnbc logo and streming banners ir ghosting from logos and banners after one month.
Apparently this is not to uncommon a problem and ir is not a problem of the past .
I have been running the screen eraser for 8 hours at a time and making some progress on getting
rid of the ir . Ordred a Pixel flipper Disk .
Yes the picture is gorgeous but it's kinda of a drag you have to be so conscientious and picky about what your
viewing and what mode the thing is in.
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Another way to get rid of IR is to put up a full white screen and turn up contrast to the max.

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Any luck getting rid of the IR?
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Yeah I bought the Pixel Protector DVD and its been making some headway at getting rid of it.
But its not a one or two session procedure.
Also I ran the calibration and the basic conclusion is all the factory settings have contrast and brightness
turned to high . The calibrated picture comes in a around 50 or a little less from for contrast and brightness.
The instructions are not that good with the DVD. I am considering some of the other disks or may try some
of the settings others have suggested here.
I am staying away from the news channels with colored logo's and streamers now.
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Thanks for the input.

I've already turned down the contrast and brightness. I was using CNET's settings which had the contrast at 80. I've since turned it down to 60, I may go less.

Patience!!!! HAHAHA I have none, but also have no choice.

Stay Tuned..........

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Yeah I bought the Pixel Protector DVD and its been making some headway at getting rid of it.
But its not a one or two session procedure.
Also I ran the calibration and the basic conclusion is all the factory settings have contrast and brightness
turned to high . The calibrated picture comes in a around 50 or a little less from for contrast and brightness.
The instructions are not that good with the DVD. I am considering some of the other disks or may try some
of the settings others have suggested here.
I am staying away from the news channels with colored logo's and streamers now.

I have a S60 series for a month or so and have kept the Contrast at 50 since I've owned it. I watch a lot of news channels, all day, and football Saturday, Sunday, Monday and haven't had any IR...at all. I think that setting Contrast at 80+ is way too high.
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Its kind of a ghosting image when you first see it . If you run your screen wiper it brings it out.
You generally only see it in the whitest of scenes. I still have a faint streaming bar from cnbc.
I guess it was my bad for not doing more research but I had been holding off on buying a flat
screen for a decade and zeroing in on the vt series for the picture. Only CRT's till now except for
computer monitors.
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I think mine has it too..
I can faintly see the Fox News Logo.
What the heck can I do to fix it??
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I think mine has it too..
I can faintly see the Fox News Logo.
What the heck can I do to fix it??

Stop watching Fox News. Save your TV and your brains.

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Nooooo...
I have to watch my FOX TV..
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Stop watching Fox News. Save your TV and your brains.

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And surely don't switch to MSNBC expecting to find any.
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And surely don't switch to MSNBC expecting to find any.

CNN is always flashing Twitter quotes for a much more dynamic color range. Should freshen up your pixels, right quick.

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I'm running the screen wiper now but I'm not seeing any improvement.
I have only had this for a couple of months, I can't believe I am having this issue.
I owned a 42" Plasma for over 6 years with no issues with burn in or IR.
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Most modern Plasmas have a pixel orbiter function which discretely shifts the pixels every few minutes. I do not know what Panasonic calls it, I have a PN64E7000. Samsung calls it pixel shift. You may have to use 16:9 instead of screen fit (Samsung terms) because a very slight zoom must be applied to give you a few pixels of space to shift. Some say it does nothing, but on 2 of 3 plasmas I had faint ESPN logos and only the third one, that I applied this feature to, was free of it after extensive veiwing.

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I don't see how a pixel shifter could do much if the adjacent pixel is the same color.
Also found out the the only way you can only turn it on in the non THX modes it puts
it in auto when in THX whatever that means. I am making progress with Pixel Protector
trying to do little on or two hour sessions. The white screen seems to work faster than the
static screen.
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I am now watching CNN on my PC.
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Also it took hours for it to get this way and it will take hours to clean it that's my conclusion.
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I've seen a handful of really really bad IRs from working in a store. Scorched a few movie title screens into a couple LEDs and Plasmas by accident.

All of them came out with time. Instead of expecting it to come out instantly, it seems to ease away. Try to have patience and also avoid the problem in the first place. I usually started by playing Ice Age and then varied the content.

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