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Old 11-14-2013, 10:19 PM - Thread Starter
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So all I hear about as a con for the TV is viewing in light. That I shouldn't have it in a bright room or else I'll barely see the picture Unfortunately I do not know what my TV room will look like as I am currently looking for apartments. However, Amazon has a great deal on the Panny ST60 right now. Sorta in a bind here. I'll know more about my apartment soon, but until then I don't want the sale to end. That's pretty much the limit of my budget for a new TV right now (~$1000)

So really my only gripe with not purchasing the TV already is the negative reviews it gets in a bright room. So is it unfounded or is it really that bad?

I'll be watching sports, movies (bluray and Netflix), playing video games, and I'll have my laptop connected to this screen. Is it a good screen for all those listed?

Thank you for your help, it's greatly appreciated!

Also, how necessary / expensive is it to get this TV professionally calibrated? Is it something I can do myself with some device?

One more thing, how is the input lag? I will be gaming on this beast, both PC and console. Is it noticeable? I usually can spot video that's out of sync with the audio and it's incredibly annoying, but is it that bad with gaming?
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The ST60 is a great set, CNET gave it 5 out 5 stars. I have the ST50 and it is a great panel so I know the ST60 is likely better. My panel does well with overhead lighting so you are likely OK and if you can control the amount of light shining on the screen, all the better.

Professional calibration runs $250-$450 depending on your area and who you get to calibrate the panel. I recommend it, but if you can't swing the $$$ you can just purchase a calibration disc and DIY.

Regarding input lag, you should definitely check out the ST60 input lag thread and decide for yourself.
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Regarding input lag, you should definitely check out the ST60 input lag thread and decide for yourself.

Do you have a link to the thread? I tried searching but not coming up with anything.
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Do you have a link to the thread? I tried searching but not coming up with anything.

Here you go, ST60 input lag thread

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1467481/official-st60-input-lag-thread
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If Input lag is a problem for you, you might want to look for the S60. It is becoming unavailable at a lot of places though.
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So all I hear about as a con for the TV is viewing in light. That I shouldn't have it in a bright room or else I'll barely see the picture Unfortunately I do not know what my TV room will look like as I am currently looking for apartments. However, Amazon has a great deal on the Panny ST60 right now. Sorta in a bind here. I'll know more about my apartment soon, but until then I don't want the sale to end. That's pretty much the limit of my budget for a new TV right now (~$1000)

So really my only gripe with not purchasing the TV already is the negative reviews it gets in a bright room. So is it unfounded or is it really that bad?

I'll be watching sports, movies (bluray and Netflix), playing video games, and I'll have my laptop connected to this screen. Is it a good screen for all those listed?

Thank you for your help, it's greatly appreciated!

Also, how necessary / expensive is it to get this TV professionally calibrated? Is it something I can do myself with some device?

One more thing, how is the input lag? I will be gaming on this beast, both PC and console. Is it noticeable? I usually can spot video that's out of sync with the audio and it's incredibly annoying, but is it that bad with gaming?

Maybe you are getting tv's mixed up, it's actually the s60 that is not recommended for bright rooms. As far as the st60 it is fine, realizing of course that bright rooms aren't a plasmas friend, save for the zt and the 8500 samsung.
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Maybe you are getting tv's mixed up, it's actually the s60 that is not recommended for bright rooms. As far as the st60 it is fine, realizing of course that bright rooms aren't a plasmas friend, save for the zt and the 8500 samsung.

Hm, I've heard much different. That the ST60 is the better of the two because it has some sort of filter on the glass, but still can get some decent glare.
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Hmm, I don't think the ST60 is particularly "recommended" for extremely bright rooms but it's a significant step up from the S60 and non filter Plasmas. I think the F8500 is sort of the go-to bright room plasma thanks to it's brightness.

I was at Sears looking and ST60 didn't really look massively reflective vs most of the LEDs it was near.

I also have an anti glare filter of some kind on my Samsung PN680 from 2010 and it's been in a fairly bright room with no issues.
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I also have an anti glare filter of some kind on my Samsung PN680 from 2010 and it's been in a fairly bright room with no issues.

Something that you put on the screen or it came like that?
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