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post #1 of 7 Old 11-19-2013, 09:11 AM - Thread Starter
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I've decided to get a 60" plasma, because my eyes are sensitive to the motion-blur and "Soap Opera Effect" of LCD's.
I'm looking to spend less than $1500.
I watch some TV and movies, but I also do a lot of gaming on both PS3 and PS4.


The stuff that is important to me:
  • Good picture quality, with deep blacks and accurate colors
  • Very low lag (like I said, I play games a lot!)
  • No motion blur
  • Some sort of audio-out jack (I sometimes use headphones)
  • Compatible with my Whalen TV stand. It's similar to this one:
    http://www.whalenfurniture.com/vas/product.php?product_id=000015
    (Are TV-mounting options standard enough that this shouldn't be an issue ?)


The stuff that doesn't concern me:
  • Brightness of the screen (it's not a very bright room)
  • # of inputs (I run everything thru a receiver)
  • Reflectiveness of the screen (I can easily control that)
  • 3D
  • Smart TV functionality (if it's there, I consider it a bonus, nothing more)
  • Power comsumption
  • Sound quality of built-in speakers (I won't be using them)



With all that in mind, I'm leaning towards the Panasonic TC-P60S60. Are there any other models that you can suggest?
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The S60 seems to have more phosphor lag than the higher end Panasonics. You might not be sensitive to this. It certainly has less input lag than the ST60.
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I have a 60" Samsung plasma (PN60F5500). My list of important/not important is much the same as yours. I use it for viewing and video games, and it's great.

 

To me the PQ is incredible. Very bright and vivid. No input lag, it comes with a game mode setting.

 

All plasmas have perfect motion no matter which one you get.

 

But mine has the dreaded pentile array. Although there is zero grid effect, it may bother you just to know.

 

I can't see how your stand attaches, but my set has screw holes on the back to install brackets. Although I have a stand much like yours, this TV requires specialty screws that didn't come with it, and I have no idea where to find them.

 

That all said, best of all, it's definitely under $1500.

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I've decided to get a 60" plasma, because my eyes are sensitive to the motion-blur and "Soap Opera Effect" of LCD's.
I'm looking to spend less than $1500.
I watch some TV and movies, but I also do a lot of gaming on both PS3 and PS4.


The stuff that is important to me:
  • Good picture quality, with deep blacks and accurate colors
  • Very low lag (like I said, I play games a lot!)
  • No motion blur
  • Some sort of audio-out jack (I sometimes use headphones)
  • Compatible with my Whalen TV stand. It's similar to this one:
    http://www.whalenfurniture.com/vas/product.php?product_id=000015
    (Are TV-mounting options standard enough that this shouldn't be an issue ?)


The stuff that doesn't concern me:
  • Brightness of the screen (it's not a very bright room)
  • # of inputs (I run everything thru a receiver)
  • Reflectiveness of the screen (I can easily control that)
  • 3D
  • Smart TV functionality (if it's there, I consider it a bonus, nothing more)
  • Power comsumption
  • Sound quality of built-in speakers (I won't be using them)



With all that in mind, I'm leaning towards the Panasonic TC-P60S60. Are there any other models that you can suggest?

the 60" S60 is perfect for you... but if you go to Panasonic's website, you'll see that both the 50" and 60" are now discontinued (65" is only one left)... so, grab one (60" S60) while you still can

this month might be the last for the S60


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yeah s60 will be great for you, such incredible bang for the buck
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An S64 owner here. You will definitely only have two choices : either the S60/64 or the F5300/5500. The rest have well over 2 frames of input lag. The V60/Z60 might cut it depending on your tolerance.

I will list what I like about my S64 and what I don't like when it comes to gaming.

+ Killer PQ. Wicked blacks with tolerant light output puts out picture that's actually far more dynamic than the LCDs are. I am impressed.

- Motion performance leaves a lot to be desired. The phosphor lag is really mediocre. Definitely the S60's weakest area. 30fps console games suffer far more from judder because of this issue.

- Scaling is very basic and for a plasma, this display does not take kindly to upscaled picture. Xbox 360 looks very nasty on this TV let alone the PS3.

- You may not care about the light output but I do. While an improvement over the U50/UT50 last year, light output and ABL still aren't satisfactory. Good thing the blacks are super inky as that covers up a lot.


If you go with Samsung, you will get superior motion performance at the expense of killer black. I may also return this and try Samsung, but damn, this TV does have really great PQ for both games and movies.
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I have exactly the same needs as you, but my problem is space. I don't have room for anything larger than 50", so I basically screwed myself over by waiting too long for a new TV. I found a great deal for a 50" ST60, which I hear has excellent PQ, but I'm worried about the input lag. Is it really that bad?

 

If I can't go with the ST60, I'll have to get a Samsung F5300. How much worse is the picture, for anyone who has tried both?
 

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