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Best Buy is selling for $500 today only as part of their one day home theater sale. The cheapest I have seen it since black Friday.
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Best Buy is selling for $500 today only as part of their one day home theater sale. The cheapest I have seen it since black Friday.
Wow, thats a deal to jump on!
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Just got back from best buy and replaced my buzzing unit with a new one. My Initial impression is that the buzzing seems diminished. Still noticeable, but certainly better than before. I was only able to set up the tv and run a few burn in slides before I had to leave, so I'll hold final judgement until later. I was able to get a price adjustment to today's $500 price, so yay!
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appreciate it... see if you can get MLL (all black screen to avoid floating blacks) to four decimal places in fL for black optimizer dark room and off

would be nice to see how the B models compare (and I believe Chad has the same C6 colorimeter I use... unless he upgraded to something more high end in the last few years)
Will do.

My panel should have close to about 120 hours on it by Friday.

Have you (or anyone else) noticed any significant drifting or changes after that mark in regards to color and greyscale? I just want to make sure there is sufficient break-in; with my previous Panasonic VT60 it was recommended to wait a few hundred hours before the initial cal but that was an exception.

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not really, but I calibrated the set a lot when I first got it (to learn the inns and outs of the set) so my calibrations were not far apart

right now I have 2,000+ hours on the set
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HI,
Long time lurker, first time poster.

Just aquired my first plasma screen, a PN51F5300AF(XZA). Details in my sig.

Fired it up last night (on a direct cable connection - bypassing the box) and got a shock. The screen was VERY dark. I mean DARK... You could see some detail, but not much. First thing I thought was "is this a bad set"? It looks nowhere near as bright as any of the Samsung 720 screens, or other brands I have helped setup. Reconnected the thing and went thru the cable box. No difference (as if I expected any). Then went thru the HDMI from the box. Still no difference. Reset the cable box. No difference.

Figuring I would see how it looked in the movie mode. Went into the menu and saw the "dynamic" mode. Selected that. WOW - it was bright and working. Went to movie and it seemed washed out and slightly fuzzy - could be because I was hooked to the cable and running a ordinary TV show..?

Absolutely NO flaws in the screen. None...! Keep that in mind. NO humming either - at least none has come up yet.

Today I went to Sears at Chapel Hill. The guy there was willing to let me look at all the modes. In standard mode the screen was "sorta bright" but we were in a very well lit showroom. It is probably good for a home enviroment. Looked OK into dynamic mode and it did brighten up. So did movie mode.

Looked at the part # and it was an "A". US01 board..... Built in Jan or Feb 2014 - don't remember... Went to look at the software and it was a 1003 (2003?). So we had a "A" model with the US01 board and the "B" ?? firmware?? IF the difference in the look of the "normal" mode on mine and the normal mode on the store demo is the software/firmware package, what in the ^%#($ am I to do? I gather that the later software has less ability to tweak the system than the earlier software. I like to be able to bend things around to my liking and don't like being constrained into a box that is someone elses idea of what things should look like. So I really don't want to return it and try to get a later build unit.

Soooooooo - I guess my question is - Is this box bad, or is what I am seeing normal with a 1205 firmware package??? Whatever it is I do not like how it looks in normal mode. Normal mode should be useable, not trash...

What to do. What to do..

Jim

Samsung PN51F5300AFXZA, US01, Build Nov 2013 Tijuana Mexico (SDIM), Software (as shipped) ver 1205

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My PN51F5300 came in today at Walmart. I went to pick it up and the box was crushed.
I opened it all looked ok and since it was the only unit to take! Got home and set it up. Turned it on and noticed some sparkles for a moment or two in the start up logo screen. (white pixels in random spots) I think that is not good but will wait for input from you guys! Then I attached my Chromecast and fired up Plex and put on a movie and wow!!! Picture is awesome out of the box!
Few things to note the model is the TS02 BF. Guide button remote. I downloaded the burn in disk and will run it for about 3 hours a day right now to help with preventing IR. I want to watch something badly but don't want to mess the burn in process up. I have Dish Hopper, Chromecast and Netflix, Plex and an Xbox360 which of these good for getting a bar free picture on the set so I can watch a movie. I used my Plex and it had bars and Netflix did too. I hope that the sparkles are not a bad sign but considering the crushed box, I have a feeling someone is going to deliver me bad news. I will post photos tomorrow!
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@ Jim What you want to do is turn off ECO Mode its under the menu in Advanced I think. Also the setting above that one increased brightness as well for me.
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HI,
Long time lurker, first time poster.

Just aquired my first plasma screen, a PN51F5300AF(XZA).
Looked at the part # and it was an "A". US01 board..... Built in Jan or Feb 2014 - don't remember... Went to look at the software and it was a 1003 (2003?). So we had a "A" model with the US01 board and the "B" ?? firmware??
Something ain't right. Never heard of an A model loaded with firmware v.1003.

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I gather that the later software has less ability to tweak the system than the earlier software.
Not true.
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HI,
Long time lurker, first time poster.

Just aquired my first plasma screen, a PN51F5300AF(XZA). Details in my sig.

Fired it up last night (on a direct cable connection - bypassing the box) and got a shock. The screen was VERY dark. I mean DARK... You could see some detail, but not much. First thing I thought was "is this a bad set"? It looks nowhere near as bright as any of the Samsung 720 screens, or other brands I have helped setup. Reconnected the thing and went thru the cable box. No difference (as if I expected any). Then went thru the HDMI from the box. Still no difference. Reset the cable box. No difference.

Figuring I would see how it looked in the movie mode. Went into the menu and saw the "dynamic" mode. Selected that. WOW - it was bright and working. Went to movie and it seemed washed out and slightly fuzzy - could be because I was hooked to the cable and running a ordinary TV show..?

Absolutely NO flaws in the screen. None...! Keep that in mind. NO humming either - at least none has come up yet.

Today I went to Sears at Chapel Hill. The guy there was willing to let me look at all the modes. In standard mode the screen was "sorta bright" but we were in a very well lit showroom. It is probably good for a home enviroment. Looked OK into dynamic mode and it did brighten up. So did movie mode.

Looked at the part # and it was an "A". US01 board..... Built in Jan or Feb 2014 - don't remember... Went to look at the software and it was a 1003 (2003?). So we had a "A" model with the US01 board and the "B" ?? firmware?? IF the difference in the look of the "normal" mode on mine and the normal mode on the store demo is the software/firmware package, what in the ^%#($ am I to do? I gather that the later software has less ability to tweak the system than the earlier software. I like to be able to bend things around to my liking and don't like being constrained into a box that is someone elses idea of what things should look like. So I really don't want to return it and try to get a later build unit.

Soooooooo - I guess my question is - Is this box bad, or is what I am seeing normal with a 1205 firmware package??? Whatever it is I do not like how it looks in normal mode. Normal mode should be useable, not trash...

What to do. What to do..

Jim
Standard/Normal modes on today's displays usually are trash as they conform to Energy Star. I have read reports of people claiming the "B" models have better out of box settings than the "A" models of last year. I have no idea if this is true.

TRY THIS:

Turn off all of the processing stuff (including eco mode) in the menu and put the display in Movie with contrast at 95 and cell at 20. Connect it to a Blu-ray player and see how it looks. It should not be dim unless you have a ton of ambient light in your room. Report back.

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My PN51F5300 came in today at Walmart. I went to pick it up and the box was crushed.
I opened it all looked ok and since it was the only unit to take! Got home and set it up. Turned it on and noticed some sparkles for a moment or two in the start up logo screen. (white pixels in random spots) I think that is not good but will wait for input from you guys! Then I attached my Chromecast and fired up Plex and put on a movie and wow!!! Picture is awesome out of the box!
Few things to note the model is the TS02 BF. Guide button remote. I downloaded the burn in disk and will run it for about 3 hours a day right now to help with preventing IR. I want to watch something badly but don't want to mess the burn in process up. I have Dish Hopper, Chromecast and Netflix, Plex and an Xbox360 which of these good for getting a bar free picture on the set so I can watch a movie. I used my Plex and it had bars and Netflix did too. I hope that the sparkles are not a bad sign but considering the crushed box, I have a feeling someone is going to deliver me bad news. I will post photos tomorrow!
you don't need any special break in procedures on these TVs... I've used mine normally from day one and now have 2,000+ hours with no IR or burn-in issues... only short term IR that goes away automatically and occasional moderate-term IR (caused by gaming a lot with the same HUD for 1-2 weeks... but goes away in hours to a few days of not playing that game/by varying content)
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Thanks PlasmaPZ80U. I have noticed the twinkles have gone away. I transported it on its side. No choice wouldn't fit in SUV any other way. I turned it on with in minutes of getting it out of box. So maybe you do need to wait a few hours or so! Anyway I used the movie calibration settings posted by I think PlasmaPZ80U and all I can say is Holy ****! I really feel like I just purchased a $1000 plus TV. The picture is incredible! I just watched The Avengers on Netflix, which was whole screen and wow just wow!. I had some reservations about plasma before I bought this but now all I can say is why oh why are they ceasing to make them! If you are on the fence about getting one... DO NOT WAIT, RUN and get one because at $600 and under you will feel like you robbed a TV out of the Magnolia section of Best Buy! It looks that good!
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Any idea if P51F5300 and P51F5500 share the same display?
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