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post #1 of 15 Old 12-12-2013, 05:08 AM - Thread Starter
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Hi guys,

 

A few weeks ago I purchased a sharp LC-70LE857U LCD, it's their "top of the line" 70" model. I recently moved and have a 15x12' wall of windows right next to the TV (offset 90 degrees) and have always heard that in environments with a large exposure to ambient light LCD is the right choice. The bottom 10' of windows can be covered (vertical blinds) but the top 2' have no covering.

 

The LCD has issues with motion trails (and other strange motion) as well as the audio being out of sync with the video (not horribly but enough for a super anal guy like me to be annoyed by it.) I've done some (not a ton) of research about these issues and it seems from what I've read that they are pretty typical of the LCD technology. As such, I am thinking about returning the set and can't see any reason to buy another LCD.

 

My prior TV (in a different house) was a 60" Pioneer Kuro, long story short I didn't get to take it with me. When we bought that TV back in 2009 or so, we chose it over the Elite because it had the new Anti-Glare coating which turned out to be very good and certainly the right choice. This room had a big, uncovered sliding glass door 45-degrees off from the TV and the coating handled it as well as one would expect – not perfect, but it did well in what was really the worst possible situation for a TV.

 

What do you guys think? Go plasma? Live with the LCD? If I should go plasma, which sets have the best anti-glare coating at a reasonable price? Ideally I'd like it to be 60"+ and under $2,500.

 

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VTs ZTs and F8500 all have an anti-glare coating. THe F8500 is the brightest output plasma giving it some ability to overcome the brightness of the room. The VT and ZT are my personal favorites for picture quality and are worth consideration as well. You won't find many people in the Plasma section telling you to keep your LED wink.gif

take a look at 65" or 60" VT60 or ZT60 Panasonic

or 60" or 64" F8500 Samsung

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My prior TV (in a different house) was a 60" Pioneer Kuro, long story short I didn't get to take it with me.

Did you just leave it at the house? (!)

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Did you just leave it at the house? (!)

Ha ha, no. My roommate was the one who purchased it and elected to keep it despite my attempts to buy it before I moved.
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Ha ha, no. My roommate was the one who purchased it and elected to keep it despite my attempts to buy it before I moved.

thats a sad, but not long story.
yes please return the LCD btw.

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thats a sad, but not long story.
yes please return the LCD btw.

Thanks for your insight on model numbers! It looks like the tv is discontinued and the ZT is way out of budget frown.gif
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65VT60. It is the 2nd best plasma to the ZT60 which is negotiable but the ZT is suppose to handle reflections a little better. Otherwise everything tests the same. The 65" is now selling below your budget. Check out Amazon. Get it and get it now.
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I've never had any problems with glare unless the light source was basically directly behind me, pointed at the TV. basically think of the tv as a mirror, if you can't see the light source from your viewing location, it's not going to be an issue. I would think light coming at a 90* angle would be nearly irrelevant in terms of glare

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Do plasmas with anti glare coatings suffer from off angle washout like LCD? I've seen plasmas that had the bar that goes across the screen like LCD when your on an angle. I'm not saying a antirflective screen is bad as I know a lot of plasmas are mirror like.
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Do plasmas with anti glare coatings suffer from off angle washout like LCD? I've seen plasmas that had the bar that goes across the screen like LCD when your on an angle. I'm not saying a antirflective screen is bad as I know a lot of plasmas are mirror like.

in general no. however, the Samsung f8500(and this is the ONLY one I've ever noticed it on) does have a reduced vertical viewing angle due to it's extremely aggressive filter. you need to be very close, or way above/below the screen for it to matter. but it's noticeable in stores where the tv is often mounted below eye level, and you need to walk up close to it.

at the same time, it's a pretty remarkable filter for overhead lighting. again, I've never seen 'glare' from anything that wasn't behind me, but the image actually appears blacker with some overhead lighting(the bright the better it seems too!) than in a pitch black room.

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The one that I seen that had the bar thing was a fairly expensive Panasonic and it was below eye level close to the floor.i was wondering why an expensive tv had this.i guess they are meant too be viewed close too eye level.Different from a lot of plasmas that work better mounted a bit higher than eyelevel.IPS lcd panels have slightly decreased quality when mounted up higher than eye level.

Ps Fiercegt don't get too high ,but you are one of the more informative posters on here.
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Everything with plasma viewing angle have to do with the filters involved, for example older models without filter have "perfect" viewing angles

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What's the difference between the ZT and VT Panasonic sets? I've been googling but can't seem to find an answer that makes sense to me... Thanks in advance!

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The VT and ZT have essentially the same dark room performance, VT has a few more features like a camera front facing speakers. The ZT has a gapless panel design and better bright room performance due to the superior filter.

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The VT and ZT have essentially the same dark room performance, VT has a few more features like a camera front facing speakers. The ZT has a gapless panel design and better bright room performance due to the superior filter.

the ZT has the studio master panel which displays slightly deeper black levels, but it should be mentioned that the VT has amazing black levels too.

The ZT is slightly better in well lit rooms. It so happened the difference between the two isnt as large as one would have guessed before both were available to test.

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