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I picked up an ST60 a few days ago and it's a great TV. However, it's in my living room in my apartment and I often watch stuff during the day. I'm finding out now that the F8500 gets brighter and has an anti-reflective coating for better bright room performance. How much of a difference is there? I'm contemplating whether it's worth boxing this ST60 up and taking it back to Best Buy to get an F8500. There's also the 900 premium for the 50" versions, but that's ok with me if the performance difference is noticeable.
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Yes, I believe the F8500 can go quite a bit brighter. At least 10 fL. - probably more.
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the f8500 is capable of led-like brightness. I'd estimate it to be about 80-90% as bright as the led's on the market now. quite impressive really!

as for the filter, it's REALLY aggressive, but only vertically. horizontal lighting(like windows beside the tv) basically aren't effected at all. this is necessary to maintain the wide horizontal viewing angle. where the f8500's filter really stands out is with overhead lighting. any pot lights, or other room lighting over head is nearly completed blocked out.

so depending on what the lights source is, it may make a huge difference, or little. I don't think either display is going to cope well with daylight shining through open windows(heck lcd's can't cope with this either) and in that situation blinds go a long way.

as far as brightness is compared, I've read reviews that indicate the f8500 is nearly TWICE as bright. seems like every review site gets different numbers though, so who knows. here's a couple examples of comparable reviews from the same review site.

f8500 ~215: http://televisions.reviewed.com/content/samsung-f8500-review-2/the-science
st60 ~ 132: http://televisions.reviewed.com/content/panasonic-st60-review/the-science

f8500 ~ 188: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1375254254
st60 ~ 93: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1366730214

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Hmm, those numbers make it appealing to make the switch.

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