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Old 12-16-2013, 03:32 PM - Thread Starter
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What's better pq, a 720p plasma vs a 1080p led? I'll sit about 10 ft away. Watch TV movies sports. My son plays 1080p Wii U. I don't care about smart tv. I have a Apple TV. Will I notice a poorer picture on the 720p Samsung plasma over the 40" m series led or similar samsung led that is 1080p?
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:cool:Better Pq the plasma if the colors and controls are set up good.But they are USUALLY not adjusted too there optimum out of the box.They are extremely difficult too improve by adjusting unless you know how too do it(LCD is easier too adjust).Plasma has the abl that dims the picture and alters colors on bright screens.Need pro calibrator too squeeze the most juice out of it.Hockey looks dull plasma.Plasma is 3 in bigger.There is input lag issues for video games on different tvs.Off angle plasma better.The lcd little sharper.colors better LCD.Motion plasma little better but still has blur.

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I was just curious if a 720p plasma was as good as a 1080p led? I can't seem to get a true red on the m series vizio led. There are advanced options like red gain etc but not sure on settings.
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Everything looks as good or better on an LCD except the quality of the motion performance and off angle viewing,and black levels.Dark stuff looks better on plasma and bright stuff better on led.The only reason I got a plasma was because the LCDs I had displayed horrendous motion performance,stutter on SOME sports etc.
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I was just curious if a 720p plasma was as good as a 1080p led? I can't seem to get a true red on the m series vizio led. There are advanced options like red gain etc but not sure on settings.

Most 720p plasmas are better then comparatively priced and often more expensive LCD's. Better blacks, better contrast, better motion, better shadow detail, better picture uniformity and color gamut. The only thing I don't like is the SDE, which is visible on a 43'' model at about 8 feet.

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Everything looks as good or better on an LCD except the quality of the motion performance and off angle viewing,and black levels.Dark stuff looks better on plasma and bright stuff better on led.The only reason I got a plasma was because the LCDs I had displayed horrendous motion performance,stutter on SOME sports etc.


I think you're in the wrong forum. Under normal lighting conditions, my Panasonic S60 is plenty bright and blows away my Toshiba Regza LCD in every category.


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I never even noticed screen door on my 51, even when I sit close too it.The biggest problem is the washed out bright images on plasma from the abl.If the white balance is set up correctly then it's not too bad.There is also problems with gradation/color shifting /color runout if the white balance and contrast is not set up right.Its Noticable when there is brightly illuminated objects on screen sometimes.
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I never even noticed screen door on my 51, even when I sit close too it.The biggest problem is the washed out bright images on plasma from the abl.If the white balance is set up correctly then it's not too bad.There is also problems with gradation/color shifting /color runout if the white balance and contrast is not set up right.Its Noticable when there is brightly illuminated objects on screen sometimes.


I've seen SDE on my older 720p Panny and on current display models all the time. ABL has never been a problem for me on either set. If you want to reduce these anomalies you are talking about, I recommend a good calibration disc. Also, the higher end TV's have better panels and processors and aren't as sensitive to these issues when compared to the entry level sets.


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Plasma:
pros: likely better blacks, better contrast, natural colors, good motion
cons: lower resolution and more space between pixels = more chance of screen door effect

LED:
pros: higher resolution, brighter image
cons: high risk of poor backlight uniformity, 'grey' blacks, motion judder

I'd pony up a couple more bux and buy a 1080p plasma personally

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I have the exact Samsung tv you are looking at..it does do 1080! It is a fantastic tv..can't beat it for quality and value. I am amazed at how good it looks!

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You get a lot of reflection off plasma screen like a mirror so you have too adjust lighting.up high works well if it has NO expensive light filter on it..shiny bulb with no shade on it is not good.
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Thanks to all. I just got a Panasonic plasma last night. TC-50 ps64 for $449.99. It's amazing. Thanks for the feedback.
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Thanks to all. I just got a Panasonic plasma last night. TC-50 ps64 for $449.99. It's amazing. Thanks for the feedback.

You mean TCP-50 S64? Wow, great price! I thought all the Sam's and Costco's were out of them. They were discontinued a couple of months ago.


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