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post #1 of 23 Old 12-29-2013, 12:12 AM - Thread Starter
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(UPDATE POST #9 and #18)

Hey all, it sure has been a while! I have been content with my HT system for a good few years now that I have been MIA from the forums for a bit now.

Unfortunately, what bring me back to the forums is that my loved TH-50PZ800U Panny 50in plasma is getting old. I've had it for 5 years, but I am disappointed that it did not last longer for the money I spent for it back in 2009. But long story short, 25 percent of the screen blacked out on me, which means the panel itself has failed and needs repair. If the estimate is too much, I might as well get a new TV. I didn't want to spend the money, but oh well...

So to the point:

--I've been out of the loop for a good 5 years or so. I understand the technological differences of projects, plasma, lcd, ed, etc etc. But unless theres been HUGE leaps in the LED/LCD scene in the last 5 years, I'm sticking with a Plasma TV. I use the TV for movies, gaming, etc, and its in my basement. I don't care about things like weight and energy savings, so the natural colors, better handling of fast motion, and deeper blacks make me like the looks of a good plasma over LCDs anyway.

But if Plasma is not where it was 5 years ago vs the other designs, please enlighten me so I can do some research.

--And also, can you guys give me some top models of Plasmas to get now days? I know the 800 and 850U series Panasonics were the tits in 2008/09 and I'm glad I went with it (besides it failing in 5 years).

--What are some good TVs to look into now days? I'm looking into 60-65 inch TVS, give or take. I don't want smaller than a 55. I'm looking to spend no more than $2k. I do not care about 3D, wifi, all the weird features on TVs now, etc. (I know most of these features just come with all TVs now days, but I don't care for the features so if I can save money on that, the better.)

Bullets:

1) My Panasonic 50PZ800U Plasma is on its last leg, I want a TV better than it in picture or equal to it.
2) Budget: $2,000
3) I prefer Plasmam unless other technologies have totally triumphed plasma in the 5 years I've been totally out of the loop.
4) I don't care about features like 3D, Smart TV, Wifi, etc. If I don't have to pay for the features the better, even though I know most of those are standard now.
5) Any models to check out? And threads on this forum to read up on on whats out now, links, etc?
6) Should I be looking into 4K Ultra HDTVs, or should I look into that another 5 years from now (as nothing I own right now (Blu-ray, Xbox One, etc) take use of the 4K resolution)?

Thanks for the input! It's exciting to get back into the market even though this is NOT what I wanted to be spending my money on at the moment, haha.
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60" VT 60

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60" VT 60

This?

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-P65VT60-65-Inch-Includes-Glasses/dp/B00BC4SN9S

So Panasonic is still doing good in the Plasma realm?
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Well they weren't making a profit, so this is Panasonic's last year making plasma. This is the same situation as Pioneer Plasma in 2008-2009, so nothing wrong with the units, but they won't be around after this. I will be buying one in the next 2-4 weeks. (65ZT60)

The VT60 ZT60 and Samsung F8500 are the best plasmas you can buy currently, and some of the best ever made to date.

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Dang I didn't know they are stopping production of Plasma! With just Samsung in the mix by themselves I'm sure ether will drop out soon, too.

That's really too bad, this forces us to buy LCD/LED tV's which I really have yet to find one I like. I can't believe Plasma is dying.
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60" VT 60

+1 billion.

And i'd buy NOW instead of waiting - production ended over a month ago and the remaining Plasma inventory is being bought up quickly before the world sinks into the dreaded LED Apocalypse that is befalling us in 2014 wink.gif

And if you buy now, there's a much better chance there will be replacements available if the TV arrives shattered in a week.

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Dang I didn't know they are stopping production of Plasma! With just Samsung in the mix by themselves I'm sure ether will drop out soon, too.

That's really too bad, this forces us to buy LCD/LED tV's which I really have yet to find one I like. I can't believe Plasma is dying.

Samsung and LG, but LG doesn't make them as well Pana and Samsung.
I hope the one I buy lasts until OLEDs are reasonable priced and uncurved!

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+1 billion.

And i'd buy NOW instead of waiting - production ended over a month ago and the remaining Plasma inventory is being bought up quickly before the world sinks into the dreaded LED Apocalypse that is befalling us in 2014 wink.gif

And if you buy now, there's a much better chance there will be replacements available if the TV arrives shattered in a week.

Thanks for the heads up. I'm heading over to Magnolia tomorrow to see if they have one in stock.

I still can't believe that after all this time we are only left with LCD/LED HDTVs as an almost monopoly at this day and age...
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UPDATE:

So I went to Magnolia Audio/Video where I got my previous 800u TV that is broken. Long story short they are going to come out and repair it and a said and done price around $250 (if it is what they think it is). Cool. But that is not the main topic here...

I said I was looking into getting the Panasonic TC-P65VT60 65inch Plasma. They have one in stock and with free delivery. Their price was $2300. I was surprised at the price because the cheapest I found the same TV online was at Amazon, also for $2300. So if I pull the trigger, I'll be getting it at Magnolia since its the same price as at Amazon, etc.

But they also had a ZT model in the store, also the 65 inch: TC-P65ZT60. It is an "Open Box" return. That is, it was NOT a TV that was used as a display piece, rather, a person bought the TV, and within 7 days, returned it for reasons OTHER than technical issues or faults with the TV. They said they could give the open box ZT model TV for only $100 more than the new VT model: $2400.

Which one would you pick?
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If in your shoes I would go with the brand new untouched VT


Display : Panasonic 60ST60

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If in your shoes I would go with the brand new untouched VT

Ok, thanks for your input!
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Pulled the trigger on a Panasonic TC-P65VT60 65inch Plasma! Thanks all.
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Congrats. You definitely made the right decision, IMO.
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Congrats Great choice.

If I could go back in time with the knowledge  Panasonic would no longer be in Plasma business the VT60 would of been on my shopping list.....not to say I'm unhappy with ST60 its a rock solid display I love it.


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Thanks guys and thanks for the quick tips.

It was all the quick tips and researching, along with the fact that I found out Panasonic is getting out of the Plasma game, that made this decision easy.

And I'm glad I did! This TV is amazing! I can't wait to see what it offers after breaking it in and getting it calibrated.

Stoked! I hope the TV lasts a long time, as I'll be repairing the thing to make it last as long as possible in it's future years.
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With these TVs, I have repaired one with similar symptoms, and it was a loose cable, I would be mighty pissed off if they charge $250 for that! The 50PZ800U excels on brightness but the contrast ratio is about the same as a new LCD. The VT60 will be good for dark rooms but you could keep the PZ800 for a bedroom or such.
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With these TVs, I have repaired one with similar symptoms, and it was a loose cable, I would be mighty pissed off if they charge $250 for that! The 50PZ800U excels on brightness but the contrast ratio is about the same as a new LCD. The VT60 will be good for dark rooms but you could keep the PZ800 for a bedroom or such.

Yup I'l be repairing the 800u 50in and putting it in my living room, and the VT60 has gone in my basement HT room.
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Well, I had a repair tech come out to my house, we took the 800u apart and the damned panel is ruined.

This makes me pretty pissed; A 5 year old Panasonic Plasma 800u series TV is ruined and I took good care of it. If the VT60 I bought doesn't last any longer than that as well I'll never buy a Panasonic TV again. Both TVs were a lot of money.
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Hey I know what! Don't buy another Panasonic and risk that 2% defect rate. Try a Samsung @ 4-5% or an LG @7-9%.

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The odds are in your favor that the VT will last you a very long time.  Panasonic uses many good components and panel manufacturing on the VT and ZT series is top notch.  The VT is a better buy in many respects to the ZT.  Better speakers for one, but if you have a separate AVR or amp, thats a moot point.  You'll be pleased with the VT.

 

But I will also second that Panasonic has the lowest defect rate of their product.. I'm not sure how that changes over years of ownership, but it does speak somewhat towards their overall quality. 


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Ya'll are late to the party. He's already decided (VT60), but I wouldn't hesitate to get another ZT60 thanks to its increased contrast ratio performance because PQ is my #1 concern.
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Yeah I'm super excited and love my 65" VT60, I'm just hoping it last longer than 5 years! My "old" 50in 800u series Plasma was really nice and I loved it, and it was near top of the line in it's day as well...
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Well, I had a repair tech come out to my house, we took the 800u apart and the damned panel is ruined.

This makes me pretty pissed; A 5 year old Panasonic Plasma 800u series TV is ruined and I took good care of it. If the VT60 I bought doesn't last any longer than that as well I'll never buy a Panasonic TV again. Both TVs were a lot of money.

No need to buy another Panasonic TV after your VT at this point, anyway. Their participation in OLED is questionable and their LCDs will probably always be just "good" at best. You made the right choice.
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