I'm contemplating the thought of purchasing my first plasma TV. One minor concern is they tend to have static buzz noise when the screen turns bright. I'm mostly considering the Samsung F8500 anyway - which I've heard reports is not as noisy as the Panasonics.
My biggest concern is the issue with Image Retention. In visiting the stores, I often see clear evidence of some severe image retention problems. For example, Paul's TV loops a marketed video on all TV's (even the non LG plasmas) that showcase the bright LG logo in the bottom-right corner. 10-12 hours a day. 7 days a week. When I visited the store, it was shockingly easy to see whenever the screen turned to a brighter hue.
At first, that was a MAJOR turn-off for me, but so far all the reports I've read from home theater enthusiasts say that image retention really isn't an issue (and rarely happens). But I've also read the opposite... with feedback stating even after properly breaking in their plasma for 100-200 hours their TV's can exhibit image retention after just a few hours of gameplay (i.e., PS3 or Xbox360). One person mentioned seeing some image retention after going through the menu system for 15-20 minutes! Seriously? 15 minutes of a static image is ALL that is needed?
My main gripe is that I would rather not go through constant maintenance routines weekly of washing out the screens. I'm seriously leaning towards getting an LED lcd TV even though I strongly believe the plasma is a better choice for me picture-wise. As I said before, I have never owned a plasma set and am hoping this community can help me make the best decision. A new TV set is a huge purchase, and we all can appreciate the importance of making the right choice to help prevent buyer's remorse.
So my question to all of you plasma experts...
- Is there a consensus on realistic guidelines one can expect to experience Image Retention?
- Even worse, how long do you think the same static image would take to experience permanent Burn In?
I have read this issue was solved for the most part, but still possible with mis-use.
- So what is mis-use? 12 hours? 8-9 hours? Are these time frames extended if the TV is broken in properly?
- What is the consensus of static buzz noise with the Samsung F8500 vs. the Panasonic ZT & VT models?
- Regarding these issues, is it possible the Samsung F8500 might be slightly better with any of these concerns?
Thanks in advance for your kind help! I'm on the verge of purchasing a TV very shortly, and I'm hoping honest feedback can help me feel confident in purchasing a plasma (or perhaps feel a little better about staying away from plasma).
plasma are intended to be tvs lcd are not . plasma are bright enough to be a realistic lcd are super bright not realistic.
and im a hard core gamer 98% of my time is gaming .
i have a 2007 panasonic plasma . Keep in mind that i ran full screen content the first 2 weeks .
the point to running full screen content is to age the pixels evenly. its recommended not mandatory.
get a samung plasma i recently got a 60" about 2 weeks ago. Picture quality is excellent and so is the price for the size.
$8xx at costco.
time frame is 200 hrs which is about 2 weeks worth. and lcd has a host of issues other then picture quality. input lag on lcd regardless of its l.e.d it is slower then plasma . so bestbuy or says use 120 or 240 htz which brings more problems rater then fixing the problem .
off axis viewing angles blooming issues sample and hold . etc
and on plasma lets say you left your movie paused overnight say 12 hrs . then it will take 12 hrs aprox to remove that static image. this is based on the users that had image retention.
myself i did had image retention with a logo channel i grabbed a dvd 1:85:1 and i watched it , never saw that logo again.
the buzzing i never heard any buzz i have pioneer elite pro-111 plasma i have panasonic px75u plasma and i have a new 60 inch plasma samsung
no buzz on none of the sets.
Pioneer Elite PRO-111
Samsung 60PnF5300 af
People have gotten IR that can last for months and that is not because they ran the logo for months before that.
Also, each brand and model then each individual TV within the same model will all vary and act differently with IR.
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Pioneer Elite PRO-111
Samsung 60PnF5300 af
so far I have not been able to produce IR under any other circumstance. scope movies, 4:3 movies, score tickers, etc haven't had any affect. but I tend to watch a lot of different things, not CNN for 8hrs a day, haha.
there is really no consensus on anything right now, but imo:
-there is buzzing on all plasmas, almost always this comes down to the users sensitivity. if you've had a plasma in the past without issues, the f8500 should be no different
-abuse is basically leaving the tv paused when you aren't using it. it's not this crazy fragile device that requires you to stretch all content to full screen, all the time. but it is wise to vary content as much as possible. and of course, the more full screen content the better. imo, the most important thing is to flip to full screen(either by changing what you're watching, or stretching the image, or running a screen wipe) when you first start to see IR. at this point it shouldn't take much to remove and then you can carry on with your normal use. if you ignore it however, it will just get worse and worse over time. after 6months of not preventing IR, it can certainly be annoyingly obvious.
I use my f8500 for scope movies, computer monitor, cable, and video games. but pretty evenly, if not slightly more cable(which is full screen usually). if you do a lot of scope movies, or a lot of the same video game, you may need to run screen wipes. tough to say for sure
Displays: Samsung PN64F8500/JVC X35
AVR: Pioneer VSX-1018AH, 5.1 audio
Sources: HTPC(Mediabrowser), PS3, XBOX360, Wii, Sony DVP-CX995V
Control: Harmony One
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