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View Poll Results: If you could have one of these 3 plasma for the same price for your basement, all in 60 inches, whic
Panasonic ST60 12 70.59%
Panasonic GT50 1 5.88%
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Best 60 inches plasma for basement to watch sports and movies and for some gaming?

Please select your favorite one among the ones listed in the poll.

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Samsung 8000 is an LED.
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I think he means the pn60e8000 plasma from 2012 not a crappy a$$ led lcd.
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I voted for the ST60. I didn't know the prices are about the same for those models. Go with the ST60! I think I already told you the reason why you should get the ST60, but the E8000 is the same gen tech as the F5300 (not worth paying a premium!) , and the GT50 has similiar black level as my S60 while the ST60 clearly bests even the VT50. (slight as it may be)
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This is exactly what I mean, the Samsung PN60E8000 is a Plasma TV.

I was told by the seller that if I dont care about the gadgets, the GT50 was clearly the best one, best panel, the only one THX certified; and honnestly to my eye it was the one providing the best image quality.
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ST60 would be my choice, it does have some minor issues but overall is a great set. Not quite the equal of the VT50 as an overall perfomer but still very good. The other two are good overall sets but the ST60 is the best of the 3.

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With the improvements to the product line in 2013, ST60 hands down.  The GT50 would look great.. no question, but I'd rather have the ST60.  The Samsung certainly can output more light, and is brighter and has a fantastic picture.. but all things being hypothetically equal, in a basement that extra light output is a waste.. and wouldn't even be used. The Samsung would have no advantage. 


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With the improvements to the product line in 2013, ST60 hands down.  The GT50 would look great.. no question, but I'd rather have the ST60.  The Samsung certainly can output more light, and is brighter and has a fantastic picture.. but all things being hypothetically equal, in a basement that extra light output is a waste.. and wouldn't even be used. The Samsung would have no advantage. 

Does the E8000 really have higher luminance? When I was in a showroom, (I asked the staff to completely turn off the light) I personally found the E series plasmas dimmest among Samsung plasmas. The GT50 was much brighter than the E8000, and the ST60 was still brighter than the GT50. (The ST60 was the second brightest plasma in the showroom after the F8500) The E8000/E6500/E550 had way too aggressive ABL.
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Does the E8000 really have higher luminance? When I was in a showroom, (I asked the staff to completely turn off the light) I personally found the E series plasmas dimmest among Samsung plasmas. The GT50 was much brighter than the E8000, and the ST60 was still brighter than the GT50. (The ST60 was the second brightest plasma in the showroom after the F8500) The E8000/E6500/E550 had way too aggressive ABL.

The E series is the dimmest of those three it maxed out at about 38ftl

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Ya know, you're both right.. I was confusing it with the F8500.. nevermind.  My mistake.


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This is exactly what I mean, the Samsung PN60E8000 is a Plasma TV.

I was told by the seller that if I dont care about the gadgets, the GT50 was clearly the best one, best panel, the only one THX certified; and honnestly to my eye it was the one providing the best image quality.

That's not true - i have a 50GT50 and upgraded to a 55ST60 and the ST60 outperforms the GT50 in every picture quality category (screen brightness, contrast, color, black levels, and especially sharpness and detail). Huge improvement in my man-room.

The GT50's THX mode is nice if one likes THX modes, but most people use Custom mode instead of THX as Custom gives access to the Pro Settings menus and provides a LOT more picture adjustment options than THX does. Personally, i don't like THX mode nearly as much as Custom. The GT50 (as well as all the other 2012 models) is a lot softer and was a big complaint in the various 2012 Panasonic model threads.

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Thanks for this info.

Is the input lag really a problem for gamers? Now that I found the S60 for 1000$ im not sure i want to pay double (2000$) for the ST60, esepcially if the S60 is better for gaming (1/3 of my use of this TV, other 2/3 are movies and sports).

What do you think?
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st60 is the only one i've seen, i liked it.

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Thanks to all of you for your comments.

I just bought the 60S60.

Now I just need to learn from scratch how to use/calibrate it for optimal performance!
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Enjoy !! smile.gif You can start with a calibration disc like Disney WOW or the free AVS709 disc which you can find in the calibration subforum

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But should I break in the tv before performing calibration?
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But should I break in the tv before performing calibration?

That would be recommended, but there's no harm in trying calibration disc while you're breaking it in. Just make sure to keep the luminance low and mix up the contents.
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I always do a 'diy' calibration as soon as possible. old habit from the crt days where jacked up contrast and brightness settings would actually do a lot of damage. it's usually recommended to wait before calibration because the pixels will 'age' a bit and you'll see color shift in the first couple hundred hours, making an early calibration no good in the long term. it's recommended to save users the money of calibrating twice, not because calibrating early will cause any damage.

so yeah, do a home calibration with a disc right away, enjoy the tv as is for a few hundred hours, and then if you want, pay a pro to calibrate after it's had some time to break in. then it should be good for a long time before you need to worry about any 'touch ups'

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