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Hey everyone. I'm trying to decide between panasonic 60' zt60 and lg 55ea9800.
Does lg have any significant advantage in terms of color production over pany aside from slight better blacks?

Usage is going to be for watching films only. I'll use my consoles on my w905 so lg's high input lag doesn't really matter. And i can fully control the lights so it isn't an issue also.

Lg is $2000 more than pany. Is it worth the extra cash?

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You might want to check out the LG 55EA9800 owners thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1493578/lg-55ea9800-55-oled-owners-thread/600_60#post_24529383

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Considering what ZTs are going for now and the deals that can be had from Cleveland Plasma (or maybe Value Electronics?) on an OLED, it's getting harder not to go with the LG. One of the best attributes of the ZT are it's blacks, and the OLED handily beats it in that regard. Still, 55" is 55"...
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Go with the OLED from my personal experience it's much better than the ZT60 and I have experience with both however motion is better on the ZT60 that's about the only aspect I do like on the ZT60 outside of size better but the IR on the ZT60 is something that tends to bother me although it clears up fast it's just annoying sometimes
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And the blacks are not just slightly better trust me it's a big difference
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You might want to check out the LG 55EA9800 owners thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1493578/lg-55ea9800-55-oled-owners-thread/600_60#post_24529383

Sounds like garbage and LG setting themself up for a lawsuit with "store mode". I question why the two wealthiest tv manufacturers can't ever be honest about whats in the box versus whats on display? why do we need panel lotteries and store modes?
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Thanks everyone for your answers.
I just happened to see that in a store the price of lg has gone down to the same price of pany.
I'll probably go for Lg in this case.

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Thanks everyone for your answers.
I just happened to see that in a store the price of lg has gone down to the same price of pany.
I'll probably go for Lg in this case.

I'd still go with the Panny.

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I'd still go with the Panny.
And may i ask your justification aside from pany's bigger screen size?

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OLED is not ready for prime, unless you don't mind interpolation and kind of short life span then go for it tongue.gif
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I guess my question is how well the OLED will age. That seems to be unknown.

And forget the curved screen.

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That would be my concern, plasma is a mature technology. OLED is not

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And may i ask your justification aside from pany's bigger screen size?

The bigger screen has nothing to do with it.

The biggest reason is that the Panny is flat. It also has a better AR Filter and it doesn't horizontally stretch the reflections like the LG does. Plasma technology is mature where OLED is still an unknown quantity. And Panasonic's build quality and quality control is better than LG's. I am impressed by the PQ of the few OLEDs i've seen but am extremely turned off by any TV that is curved, and i also don't think they're ready for prime time.

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The bigger screen has nothing to do with it.

The biggest reason is that the Panny is flat. It also has a better AR Filter and it doesn't horizontally stretch the reflections like the LG does. Plasma technology is mature where OLED is still an unknown quantity. And Panasonic's build quality and quality control is better than LG's. I am impressed by the PQ of the few OLEDs i've seen but am extremely turned off by any TV that is curved, and i also don't think they're ready for prime time.
Yeah,these are reasonable reasons' i'll give you that. Though unlike most people, the curved screen really appeals to me as tv is going to be in my room and i'll be the only one using it so when sitting at the sweet spot i assume the curve screen will improve the immersive feeling.
Though it's in fact a downside if a few people watches it but it's not the case for me.

As for ar filter; as i said in the first post, i have full control of lights, in fact the room i'm going to place it is relatively dark so whether it has an efficient filter really doesn't matter that much.

I guess i'll take my chance. smile.gif

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You should PM vinnie97, as he owns both ZT and the LG OLED. smile.gif
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Thanks, i will. smile.gif

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Lol if you like I can answer the questions for many of the better sets people talk about on this forum I have a vt50 purchased my father a zt60 back in December have a samsung s9c looking to order the gallery oled this week and also have a pioneer 111 and also purchased my father the 141 so between my place and his place after watching all these sets extensively I would still go with the LG oled if you want really good input call Robert at value electronics he will give you a very honest answer buy an extended warranty for the set just in case but there is no proof with these sets that you may not have a long lifespan they have not been around long enough too tell
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But from my experience with all these sets the best one especially if you watch primarily movies would be the LG OLED
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55" versus 60" isn't a big gap. You said movies only, so the choice is pretty clear. I haven't had the LG long enough to fully take it in, but it should overall make you happier (24 fps motion won't be a problem with the LG, and the motion smoothing is highly configurable or can be disabled altogether). Just don't look too closely for dead pixels. wink.gif
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OP - others have said it better, but plasma is matured and perfected. While OLED is new and very unstable. I don't know your financial situation, but unless the cost isn't a factor, I'd go with plasma 10 times out of 10.
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The flipside of that is you only live once.
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Plasma may have matured but who is to say anything will happen with the oled set you have get an extended warranty and if something happens use it no matter which set you purchase you run a chance that something may happen to it it's inevitable whether it be plasma, lcd, or oled you always run the risk of something going wrong with the set
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Lol if you like I can answer the questions for many of the better sets people talk about on this forum I have a vt50 purchased my father a zt60 back in December have a samsung s9c looking to order the gallery oled this week and also have a pioneer 111 and also purchased my father the 141 so between my place and his place after watching all these sets extensively I would still go with the LG oled if you want really good input call Robert at value electronics he will give you a very honest answer buy an extended warranty for the set just in case but there is no proof with these sets that you may not have a long lifespan they have not been around long enough too tell
Thanks, i too have vt50 in my living room. Would really like to know your comparison between zt60-vt50 and zt60-141fd.

Did you say you have lg oled? If so is there much of a difference between zt60?

I replaced 3 sets in just 1 year and really want this to be my last purchase for at least a few years. Lol. smile.gif
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55" versus 60" isn't a big gap. You said movies only, so the choice is pretty clear. I haven't had the LG long enough to fully take it in, but it should overall make you happier (24 fps motion won't be a problem with the LG, and the motion smoothing is highly configurable or can be disabled altogether). Just don't look too closely for dead pixels. wink.gif
So did you keep zt60 instead.

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This probably isn't what you want to hear, but I'm holding onto them both. Fortunately, I'm not stuck in an efficiency where there's only room for one display. wink.gif Also, there is no 65" OLED available at the price point of the ZT in 2013 (and who upgrades laterally in size these days?! I would require a 70" at the minimum, and LG only has a 77" forthcoming for a price that will make anyone quake in their boots...so I'll be in a holding pattern with both for some time).
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This probably isn't what you want to hear, but I'm holding onto them both. Fortunately, I'm not stuck in an efficiency where there's only room for one display. wink.gif Also, there is no 65" OLED available at the price point of the ZT in 2013 (and who upgrades laterally in size these days?! I would require a 70" at the minimum, and LG only has a 77" forthcoming for a price that will make anyone quake in their boots...so I'll be in a holding pattern with both for some time).
Oh, i thought you returned the lg, my bad.
70' at minimum? You better get a projector, lol. biggrin.gif

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I just upgraded from a Pioneer Elite Kuro 50" PRO-111FD 1080p HD Plasma to a ZT60 and passed on the oled technology until it has some additional time in the market place.

 

IMHO the ZT60 will be perfect for the 2-3 year wait in R&D. Maybe by then a 65" or 70" oled TV will be tried and tested to beat the ZT's but for now I am comfortable waiting for the technology to be perfected.

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^^^^Great choice imo, congrats on your new set smile.gif

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I just upgraded from Kuro50 for ZT60 and passed on the oled technology until it has some additional time in the market place.

IMHO the ZT60 will be perfect for the 2-3 year wait in R&D. Maybe by then a 65" or 70" oled TV will be tried and tested to beat the ZT's but for now I am comfortable waiting for the technology to be perfected.
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~Pioneer Elite Kuro 50" PRO-111FD 1080p HD Plasma is what I had. Bought it new in 2008 and I am thinking about selling it, not sure.

 

Having ZT calibrated tomorrow and will ask the tech to let me know how may hours are on it as people are asking. My understanding is the 111FD was designed to go 60,000 hours. Might box it up and put in in another room when we relocate to bigger house in 1-2 years.

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Think it was 60K hours until half brightness/contrast.

It will do nicely in another room and you won't notice a thing don't worry wink.gif

Thing is the phosphors will still be majorly functional/bright even when a catastrophic internal component give out occurs... Even on a KURO with the highest quality internal components available (including panel) still today you would be lucky for it to get to say about 45K hrs without something crapping out internally.

Buts that helluva long time regardless.

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