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post #631 of 954 Old 06-27-2014, 05:16 AM
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Mark, really wish we could have gotten you into an S60 or ST60 when they were available. Nothing against the Samsung but that 60 series was really panasonic at the height of their powers. Good luck with the hunt!
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So, I'm still after a "good" F5300. The main question is whether Geek Squad protection is called for, since Samsung service is so abysmal. Usually I'm loath to buy extended warranties, but in this case it seems like a good move.

If there is an endemic issue with the F5300 and pinkish tints, then that's a separate story. I'm crossing my fingers that the third time is a charm.
Mark, our of curiosity why don't you want the F8500?
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Mark, our of curiosity why don't you want the F8500?
Sure I want a 60-inch F8500, a 64-incher would be even better. Unfortunately, I currently can't afford a $2400 TV, much less a $3100 TV... and the $200+ extended warranty that (it seems based on my experience) would be a good idea for such a TV—imagine if that service guy showed up and tried to work on a F85000! The F8500 is almost triple the price of a F5300 with or without a warranty. If I spend that kind of money on dark room viewing, it's going to be on front projection.

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Sure I want a 60-inch F8500, a 64-incher would be even better. Unfortunately, I currently can't afford a $2400 TV, much less a $3100 TV... and the $200+ extended warranty that (it seems based on my experience) would be a good idea for such a TV—imagine if that service guy showed up and tried to work on a F85000! The F8500 is almost triple the price of a F5300 with or without a warranty. If I spend that kind of money on dark room viewing, it's going to be on front projection.
60F5300 + Front Projection setup is still less then a 64F8500
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60F5300 + Front Projection setup is still less then a 64F8500
That's exactly right!
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As a spectator of this thread, I would love you to go with an LG plasma at a comparable price to the F5300 and the Vizio E. I would be very interested in your opinion comparing the three.
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Mark, really wish we could have gotten you into an S60 or ST60 when they were available. Nothing against the Samsung but that 60 series was really panasonic at the height of their powers. Good luck with the hunt!
A dramatic turn of events...

I went to different Best Buy to try and get a third F5300. I noticed this on the wall:



Over on the side, I noticed this...



"Scratch" is not on the screen. Tested, works, no IR.


I'm sure you can guess what happened next.

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Nice work! The F8500 is in a class by itself in Samsung's lineup and a great example of what a high quality plasma is capable of. I'm jealous of that deal as well-- I didn't pay much less for my 55" VT60! (There is always an enormous price gap between 60 and 64/65 in plasma)

Can't wait to hear your impressions of one of the last best plasmas ever made!

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Sure I want a 60-inch F8500, a 64-incher would be even better. Unfortunately, I currently can't afford a $2400 TV, much less a $3100 TV... and the $200+ extended warranty that (it seems based on my experience) would be a good idea for such a TV—imagine if that service guy showed up and tried to work on a F85000! The F8500 is almost triple the price of a F5300 with or without a warranty. If I spend that kind of money on dark room viewing, it's going to be on front projection.
I certainly understand that. I'm debating pulling the trigger on the 60" and it's painful to think about!
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"Scratch" is not on the screen. Tested, works, no IR.


I'm sure you can guess what happened next.
Congrats, what a find!
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I certainly understand that. I'm debating pulling the trigger on the 60" and it's painful to think about!
Might want to swing by your local Best Buy w/Magnolia. If they are remodeling, you might find a F8500 floor model, if you are interested in that kind of thing. The one I found was not listed on the Best Buy website. There was also a 51" F8500 open box at that store, but I was not going to settle for that size.

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Will you be changing the the title to "Why I Bought Two Plasma HDTV's in 2014"?

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"Scratch" is not on the screen. Tested, works, no IR.
Where is the scratch?
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I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the 60" 5300. The TV has the slightly hue of pink/purple at the bottom but its barely noticeable in the contract test screens and invisible during normal viewing. Been running the various colored slides to work in the TV.

The TV looks like crap when being used with the computer on the desktop though looks great in a game or watching netflix.

Also any light in the room kills the TV as its extremely reflective. Just installed blackout curtains on all windows and that seemed to do the trick. So far its looking good. Can't beat it for $600.
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Will you be changing the the title to "Why I Bought Two Plasma HDTV's in 2014"?
Well, I only wound up with one in the end. But it's definitely the one I actually wanted.

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Anyone else have experience with the PC input looking dark and overall bad. I'll try and take a picture. It looks great in games / Netflix just not in the desktop / browsing. Thoughts?

Again thanks imagic for your advice and input. Clearly for the price it can't be beat and the black levels are unbelievable.

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A dramatic turn of events...

I went to different Best Buy to try and get a third F5300. I noticed this on the wall:



Over on the side, I noticed this...



"Scratch" is not on the screen. Tested, works, no IR.


I'm sure you can guess what happened next.
You realized how awesome I was and had it shipped to my house?

Nice find Mark!

Looky here!
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Well, I only wound up with one in the end. But it's definitely the one I actually wanted.
Yes.....but you bought two. I think now a change of title would be useful, meantime, congrats on your upgrade.

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A dramatic turn of events...

I went to different Best Buy to try and get a third F5300. I noticed this on the wall:



Over on the side, I noticed this...



"Scratch" is not on the screen. Tested, works, no IR.


I'm sure you can guess what happened next.
You purchased 3 - 5300s for the same price to make a massively wide display?

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Yes.....but you bought two. I think now a change of title would be useful, meantime, congrats on your upgrade.

The end result is the only one that matters for the purpose of the thread. A reader can easily see the history in the thread. If he bought and kept 2 that would be a different story. In this case he exchanged one for the other.


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Anyone else have experience with the PC input looking dark and overall bad. I'll try and take a picture. It looks great in games / Netflix just not in the desktop / browsing. Thoughts?

Again thanks imagic for your advice and input. Clearly for the price it can't be beat and the black levels are unbelievable.

If this is related to the 5300, you should probably ask in the owners thread as you will get a better and most likely quicker response from those "in the know".


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Where is the scratch?
I can't find a scratch on it.
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A dramatic turn of events...

I went to different Best Buy to try and get a third F5300. I noticed this on the wall:



Over on the side, I noticed this...



"Scratch" is not on the screen. Tested, works, no IR.


I'm sure you can guess what happened next.
Shut the Front Door! Congrats! Someone in your line of work should own a top of the line TV and everything in between. AVS should reimburse you for it. HAHA

Now your future reviews will be even more interesting....
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I can't find a scratch on it.
Glad you got what you wanted. Now let's just hope there's no buzzing issue. Enjoy your new TV.


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Shut the Front Door! Congrats! Someone in your line of work should own a top of the line TV and everything in between. AVS should reimburse you for it. HAHA

Now your future reviews will be even more interesting....
Well, the AX800U review unit happened to arrive today. I have a feeling I'm going to be splitting hairs when I write that review up and discuss what beats what.

One surprise though... the F5300 has most of the color controls that the F8500 has; it remains impressive for the price (if you get a good one). However I can already tell the calibrated dark room viewing experience on the F8500 will be better, and the ambient light experience is a fair bit better. Most importantly, it's not a dud, and the same scenes from Art of Flight that got me all upset about pink tint issue on the F5300s I got look just perfect on the F8500

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The end result is the only one that matters for the purpose of the thread. A reader can easily see the history in the thread. If he bought and kept 2 that would be a different story. In this case he exchanged one for the other.


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Agreed, if the purpose of the thread is just to pump Plasma.

The easily in the thread history part, not so much.

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Glad you got what you wanted. Now let's just hope there's no buzzing issue. Enjoy your new TV.


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None that I can hear where I sit, and its very faint right behind the set. Both the F5300s buzzed a bit more than this does.

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Agreed, if the purpose of the thread is just to pump Plasma.

The easily in the thread history part, not so much.
I'm not changing any thread titles. I'll definitely write an update summarizing the events I've blogged about in the comments, and put it in the original post.

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I had a Panny 50ST30 for several years and while it was a good set, it suffered from serious IR almost to the point of mild burn-in and as time went by, its black levels suffered. Late last year I decided to try Sony's 55W900, its top of the line non-4K set. It had a lovely image but its viewing angles were very disappointing, even from one side of the couch to the other. My viewing area has some angled seating so that wasn't going to work. Back it went. Despite my experience with my old plasma set, I ordered a Panny 55VT60 from Amazon ad got it just after new years. It was probably one of the last sets available at a good price point so I was lucky to get it when I did. After around 90 hours of running continuous 1.78:1 aspect ratio movies, I put it up on my AV stand and haven't looked back since. The set is remarkable. I was using a modified version of CNET's video settings which produced a very good picture. Last month, I was fortunate to be one of the folks that Chad B. visited during his San Francisco Bay Area tour. Chad came in and did his thing and 4 1/2 hours later, my VT60 produced an image that was as good as anything out there. As I told Chad, the picture is so good that I no longer have to think about how good it is. I just watch and enjoy. For me, plasma technology is still highly viable and I mourn the fact that Panasonic is out of it and Samsung will be after the 8500 series is eventually discontinued. Plasma's cinema like picture gives me what I consider to be a more realistic viewing experience and its pristine viewing angles cannot yet be matched any of the competing technologies except, perhaps, for OLED. Maybe that's what we'll all have in few years but until then, I'm a plasma guy.
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Agreed, if the purpose of the thread is just to pump Plasma.

The easily in the thread history part, not so much.

Well let's see the purpose of this thread was to chronicle why @imagic chose plasma over LCD,, so yeah there be a slight plasma bias in it. The bonus is that we get to see his reaction when comparing his plasma to the LCD review sets he gets. If anything it might prove when Mark sees a true match up from the LCD side.

As far as thread history goes and advanced search in this thread for only Marks post is strained easily enough to find his reports.


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