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Found a New Panasonic VT60 but there's one issue...

So I'm the market for a new display and while searching through Best Buy today i found a Panny P55VT60 at an excellent price (smaller than the 60-65" i wanted but the PQ is insane). The only problem is that the display was used as a floor model unit and has acquired some iR from about 4-6 months of mild abuse. My question is: is the iR on the 2013 VT60 reversible or should I compromise for the lower quality LED sets that are out now?


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store demo IR is always a risky proposition imo. i'd want to see it in person first, and see if it bothered me.




that being said, 'lower quality LED' shouldn't be plan B, or plan C for that matter. heck, I'm not sure i'd even consider it an option, period.


should the vt60 not work out for you, I would look at, in order:
-Samsung f8500 plasma
-Samsung f5300 plasma
-Samsung h5000 plasma
-any LG plasma(not familiar enough with their line)
-just about any functioning used plasma you can get from kijiji or craigslist, etc
-a good quality FALD led
-a good quality LED with local dimming
-installing a window where your tv used to be and hoping something interesting happens outside
-a cheap edgelit led with no dimming
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It might be reversible, but probably not to 100%. Cleaning up one's own mess is one thing, cleaning up that made by a separate entity and not being aware of the specific mechanism that caused it is quite another. To add to the above list (because a good quality FALD LED will be fairly costly in and of itself), you should be able to locate a used LG 55EA900 (OLED) by now (as well as new from some scalpers on Ebay who grabbed them from Microcenter's recent sale). Definitely no reason not to consider it.
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Hmm thanks for chiming in... back in the day I would go for it and see if the iR would subside but my call is that it would Zero W.A.F. until it clears up. in that case I'll be taking a look at the Samsung F8500 plasma and F8000 LED to see if it will suffice.
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While the VT60's (and ZT series) sets are hard to find, minimalists can still find the Panasonic Broadcast BT300-series displays out there, which I think are extremely good if you calibrate them correctly. These are still widely used for mastering network shows and Blu-ray transfers in LA and NY.

I have a Panasonic TH-42BT300 myself that I use for mastering in my small post house, and it's been a champ. There's zero features -- just one HDMI input, no smart TV features, no speakers, no tuner, no nothing -- but if you use it with an outboard HDMI switcher, I think it could work for some setups.

The trick with the BT300 is to dig deep into the menus and turn a lot of the power-saving, pixel-shifting stuff off. Once you do all that, the picture can be surprisingly good. The 42" model is still available (brand-new) from B&H Photo for about $1600, which is about half of what they used to sell for a couple of years ago. I have no connection to the company except as a satisfied customer.
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It might be reversible, but probably not to 100%. Cleaning up one's own mess is one thing, cleaning up that made by a separate entity and not being aware of the specific mechanism that caused it is quite another. To add to the above list (because a good quality FALD LED will be fairly costly in and of itself), you should be able to locate a used LG 55EA900 (OLED) by now (as well as new from some scalpers on Ebay who grabbed them from Microcenter's recent sale). Definitely no reason not to consider it.
I still don't know where to rank that on my list though. I could see it going anywhere from top of the list before the f8500, to just before the FALD LED. we finally got some on display here, but I haven't made the trek to go play with one yet(I prefer going to the store my friend works at so I can actually fiddle in peace, haha)
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G'wan...your thoughts would be most revealing. Hope it's in a room with minimal lighting! No way no how should it place below any old plasma...that's crazy talk!
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While the VT60's (and ZT series) sets are hard to find, minimalists can still find the Panasonic Broadcast BT300-series displays out there, which I think are extremely good if you calibrate them correctly. These are still widely used for mastering network shows and Blu-ray transfers in LA and NY.

I have a Panasonic TH-42BT300 myself that I use for mastering in my small post house, and it's been a champ. There's zero features -- just one HDMI input, no smart TV features, no speakers, no tuner, no nothing -- but if you use it with an outboard HDMI switcher, I think it could work for some setups.

The trick with the BT300 is to dig deep into the menus and turn a lot of the power-saving, pixel-shifting stuff off. Once you do all that, the picture can be surprisingly good. The 42" model is still available (brand-new) from B&H Photo for about $1600, which is about half of what they used to sell for a couple of years ago. I have no connection to the company except as a satisfied customer.
How clean is the BT300 compared to other plasmas you have seen?

I have two PF30s 42" and 50", I wonder if you are familar with those
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How clean is the BT300 compared to other plasmas you have seen?
It's great, among the last plasmas Panasonic made. I believe the one I have is dated 2012. Bear in mind this is a pro broadcast monitor and not a TV set. The fact that you can kill all the Energy Star stuff and avoid a lot of ABL problems helps quite a bit.
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