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LG 42PN4500 vs Samsug PN43F4500

Since I missed out on the Panasonic S60 42" 1080p unit, and I have a size constraint due to my entertainment cabinet, these are the only 2 plasmas that can fit.
Current price at Bransmart is $287 for the Sam 43F4500 and $330 for the LG for the 42PN4500, but 5 year warranties is $120.
Meanwhile Best Buy is $299 for the 43F4500 and $129 warranty, and $350 for the 42PN4500 and $60 warranty.

But regardless of the price, since they are pretty close, I'd like to know what is the better best for PQ. It is in a living room, but usually dim lit, and dark when watching movies. Have Comcast HD cable and Oppo BDP-95 player.

I'm looking for a set with accurate color production, excelent black levels/contract, clean motion (non soap opera effect), good side viewing angles, and no plasma buzz. We've been using a Panasonic 36" Tube CRT HDTV (480p/1080i) since 2001 that was $2000 new. Even though its old tech, images and black levels still blow away most LEDs I've seen. So that's why were thinking if plasma for now....until OLED is in full development. I had considered the new Vizio M422 Full Array LED, but reviewes are mixed.

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Well I have seen the 51PN4500 and an lg 50inch plasma in action and I just love the colors on the 51PN4500. I think the black level and color is way better on the Samsung. The lg is good but the colors are more toned down and not as vibrant to my eyes. The next tv I get will be a Samsung if the colors are just as good as the 51PN4500. That is my 2 cents
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[QUOTE=HDTN;25829865] I think black levels not as vibrate to my eyes

Man, sounds painful !
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I think black levels not as vibrate to my eyes

Man, sounds painful !
yeah it was until I corrected my spelling.
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Best $500 TV article

I haven't seen this particular LG plasma, as far as I remember, but I was very impressed with the Samsung F4500 when I was looking a few months ago. We ended up buying a Samsung PN51F5300, but we would have gone with the PN43F4500 had we been looking for a smaller television.

Actually, it was Geoff Morrison's "The Best $500 TV" from last August that put me onto Samsung plasmas. I was coming from a CRT and didn't know much about HDTVs, but we ended up with our Samsung plasma and doubt we could be happier.

Whichever way you go, I wouldn't pay that much for an extended warranty (not that I buy extended warrantees anyway). Some people swear by them, but that's a high percentage of the cost of one of these two televisions. If you feel you need the warranty, try to negotiate that down some.

Best to you.
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I haven't seen this particular LG plasma, as far as I remember, but I was very impressed with the Samsung F4500 when I was looking a few months ago. We ended up buying a Samsung PN51F5300, but we would have gone with the PN43F4500 had we been looking for a smaller television.

Actually, it was Geoff Morrison's "The Best $500 TV" from last August that put me onto Samsung plasmas. I was coming from a CRT and didn't know much about HDTVs, but we ended up with our Samsung plasma and doubt we could be happier.

Whichever way you go, I wouldn't pay that much for an extended warranty (not that I buy extended warrantees anyway). Some people swear by them, but that's a high percentage of the cost of one of these two televisions. If you feel you need the warranty, try to negotiate that down some.

Best to you.
Thanks for the info.
One of the more recent reviews on Best Buy said that a person bought the Samsung first, but due to the bad buzzing sound they returned it for the LG that didn't buzz. I'm not sure if that is a issue or not with the Samsung F4500. We do get some buzz on the CRT HDTV, but only with bright scenes.
We also still have a lot of SD TV channels we watch (thanks to Comcast not having all in HD) so our cable box (Motorola DCX3400M) would be doing the converting to 720p regardless of which plasma we get. The Oppo BDP-95 would also have to be set for 720p.

My only other concern is the width space in our entertainment cabinet. The larger Samsung model (being 1" wider) could be a tight fit, but the LG should fit OK. Since BrandsMart sells both ($287 Samsung, $329 LG) it would be the closest store to try them out and buy them, but their 5 year warranty is $120 which I think any think of $80 would be too much. Best Buy has the two sets for $299 Sam and $330 LG, but for some reason their warranty is $130 or the Sam and $69 for the LG (which total would make it the lower price).
Regardless of where I buy a TV, can't I get the Square Trade one from Amazon to cover it? I read something about that in the past.
I'd like it to be covered, as eventually would want to invest in a non-size-restrictive entertainment cabinet and an OLED. I would get a larger 1080p plasma now, if it weren't for the fact I'd also have to replace my cabinet.
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My friend has a Samsung plasma and I never heard any buzz myself. And I like colors on the Samsung so much more than the LG. Even for SD content.
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The Sammy 4500 series are the best kept secrets in TV land, IMO. To answer one question, the 51" indeed has incredible color pop, and contrast, almost a 3D look in some pictures/shows. The fact that they are almost giving these sets away proves that no one has a clue about them....

As far as buzzing, cant speak for the LG, but the Sammy 51" has very light buzzing that can only be heard in a pin-drop quiet room with TV volume off or at extremely low levels (less than 5).
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The fact that they are almost giving these sets away proves that no one has a clue about them....

You probably shouldn't look at Bestbuy's add this week. Crazy price for a 50 inch plasma.
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You probably shouldn't look at Bestbuy's add this week. Crazy price for a 50 inch plasma.
$379?? Oh my...
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Best Buy site is show $299 for 43F4500, $379 51F4500, and $549 for the 1080p 51F5300.
I'd get the 51F5300, but again it's too big for the entertainment cabinet.
When I called BrandsMart the 43" was $280-ish. But the extended warranties from with store is $120 for 5 year. I looked on the SquareTrade site and they only offer up to a 4 year for $55, but Amazon shows a 5 year SquareTrade for $39. I'm just not sure if you buy the Samsung in a local store, then buy the 5 year Square Trade warranty from Amazon (or if it's only for TVs purchased from Amazon). But weird that the actually web site for Square Trade doesn't show 5 year.
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$379?? Oh my...
LG's prices on plasma remind me of a company doing a fire sale to clear out inventory on panels or to pay off the factory. I can't believe that they can sustain those prices for very long. That and my local UK shops don't have a single plasma on show, and only two 50" 1080p LGs and one 51" 720p Samsung online.
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That price is for the Samsung PN51F4500. I probably started the confusion when I called the 51 a 50 inch TV. The fire sale comment is still aplicable. That price is unbelievable.
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I've heard there's a 10% off movers coupon that you can get at the post office, but it has some restrictions. Does anyone know if that would work with buying the PN43F4500? It would lower it about $30 if it did work.

The extended warrantie from the store is $120 for 5 year. I looked on the SquareTrade site and they only offer up to a 4 year for $55, but Amazon shows a 5 year SquareTrade for $39. I'm just not sure if you buy the Samsung in a local store, then buy the 5 year Square Trade warranty from Amazon (or if it's only for TVs purchased from Amazon). But weird that the actually web site for Square Trade doesn't show 5 year.
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It's kind of annoying though, LG's low end 50" 1080p plasma has only one HDMI port and one combined component+composite port. Plus an antenna input. No other inputs. That can't help sales, when even the budget TV models now offer at least 3 HDMI.
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Never had buzzing on my samsung pn43f4500.
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Never had buzzing on my samsung pn43f4500.
Thanks for the info.
I may not be able to get to a store to see any unit in person until next week, since I'm home recovering from surgery a few days ago.
Hope they still have the 43F4500 in stock.
I'd have to find some guys to pull out my 250lbs 36" Panasonic TAU CRT HDTV so I could put a new TV in the entertainment cabinet.
Since there isn't really anything wrong with my Panasonic, I've been holding out for OLED, but since I've had it from 2001, who knows how much longer life it has - but has never had any problems or warranty repairs. I wonder if I could even sell it (eBay) for local pick up, but not sure how much I could get for it, even though it was $2000 when I bought it.
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Looking at the Best Buy site, their warranty price doesn't make sense:
Samsung PN43F4500 is $299 and 5 year warranty is $129 = $429.
LG 42PN4500 is $349 and 5 year warranty is $69 = $419.
How can they charge $50 more for a warranty on the Samsung, when the price of the TV is less?
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