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Samsung 64F8500 versus LG Electronics 55EA8800 55-Inch 1080p 3D Smart OLED TV

The LG is "only" about $1,400 more. That said, if price was not a factor, which set would you rather have?
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The LG is "only" about $1,400 more. That said, if price was not a factor, which set would you rather have?
If size was also not an issue (55 vs 64), then I would go with the LG because of the much better blacks. Plus the LG A8800 is a flat screen, not curved like other LG OLED models.
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the lg is "only" about $1,400 more. That said, if price was not a factor, which set would you rather have?
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I'll take the extra 9".
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I'd rather have a projector, but if the option is 64" plasma vs. 55" OLED, give me the plasma. You won't get anything near a cinematic experience with a 55" screen.
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there's a lot of 'ifs' in this debate, but I agree with the above. if I didn't care about money, or size, I would take the oled over the plasma because I'm all about the deep blacks, and to this day I still miss my CRT RPTV because of that.


but realistically, I would never buy the LG right now. 1400 is a lot of 'extra' money, and 9" is a lot less screen area. I would justify this to myself by saying that 3yrs from now, I would rather have the f8500 in the living room, and a great OLED tv in the theater. and if I bought the LG right now, I might have to wait 4yrs, or buy a lesser quality oled, and I'd still be left with a questionable auxillary display in the living room(in the living room setting I think the f8500 would actually be better).


then again, if you don't NEED a new tv right now, I think it'd be even better just to wait for a oled that don't have second thoughts about. maybe next year we'll see a 65" model for a reasonable price. or a UHD model that'll make you glad you didn't waste money on a 1080p one. I don't know, I just don't like buying expensive products that I have second thoughts about.
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then again, if you don't NEED a new tv right now, I think it'd be even better just to wait for a oled that don't have second thoughts about. maybe next year we'll see a 65" model for a reasonable price. or a UHD model that'll make you glad you didn't waste money on a 1080p one. I don't know, I just don't like buying expensive products that I have second thoughts about.
I agree. In 3 or 4 years we will probably see a 65 inch OLED 4K tv for the price of current F8500's. Then I will probably will be deciding whether or not to jump at the deal. Of course, if 4K OLED tv's drop to that price, I will be lucky to get $200 for my 64 inch plasma tv.
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The LG OLED looks amazing but why pay the premium when you can purchase a larger, proven performing TV.

OLED has the new toy appeal and there's pretty much no way to be disappointed with the F8500.
Who ever looks back and says... I wish I hadn't spent less on this really good TV!!!!!

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I agree. In 3 or 4 years we will probably see a 65 inch OLED 4K tv for the price of current F8500's. Then I will probably will be deciding whether or not to jump at the deal. Of course, if 4K OLED tv's drop to that price, I will be lucky to get $200 for my 64 inch plasma tv.
exactly...buy what you want now and buy again in 4 years if technology has moved far enough to justify a change

As for prices...if money wasnt an issue
I would still buy the F8500....64" vs 55" is HUGE

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Picture quality -- not size -- is everything to me. In fact, I would take a 24-inch OLED display over a 65-inch plasma display any day of the week.
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Picture quality -- not size -- is everything to me. In fact, I would take a 24-inch OLED display over a 65-inch plasma display any day of the week.

sitting 8-10 feet away?...really


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Picture quality -- not size -- is everything to me. In fact, I would take a 24-inch OLED display over a 65-inch plasma display any day of the week.
then you most own an OLED then? how is it?

OLED isn't that much better than an f8500 yet, either.

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The lg OLED thread had an owner with both side by side with several pictures a few weeks ago. Curved screen though.
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The lg OLED thread had an owner with both side by side with several pictures a few weeks ago. Curved screen though.
Wow! That's a huge difference in black levels. No plasma glow.
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Picture quality -- not size -- is everything to me. In fact, I would take a 24-inch OLED display over a 65-inch plasma display any day of the week.
I agree. quality over quantity. getting a cheap 80" tv just means the defects will be all that much more obvious.


but of course there's a limit to this. last year I was faced with the decision between a 64" f8500 or 60" vt60 for basically the same price. I was moving up from a 50" so both were massive upgrades. eventually I decided I had to buy the 'best' and the decision was between a 64" f8500 or 65" vt60 for several hundred more. when I compared them, I didn't see much that I liked better on the vt60 so I opted for the f8500. at some point, you reach a quality that's 'good enough' and you are unlikely to be disappointed with either of these TV's. at that point I can see the virtue of buying a large screen, but generally speaking I agree with your sentiment. size is only a concern AFTER picture quality has been satisfied. the LG oled may in fact be enough of an improvement(especially in blacks) that I would have no issue sitting 2feet closer to the 55". I feel that's a better option than wearing sunglasses to watch the f8500(to get the better blacks).


I just don't think it's the right time to buy oled in terms of a value-based decision

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The lg OLED thread had an owner with both side by side with several pictures a few weeks ago. Curved screen though.
I think I just got a semi chub from that pic.


it's been about a decade since I've viewed a tv in a dark room as wasn't annoyed.

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I'd take the Sammy and save the money while getting 9" more real estate. It is one of the best plasmas ever made, and certainly among the best TVs available.
In 3-4 years when OLED has matured, I would upgrade to the superior OLED at what will hopefully be a lower price.
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Picture quality -- not size -- is everything to me. In fact, I would take a 24-inch OLED display over a 65-inch plasma display any day of the week.
So you would rather watch a movie on a Samsung OLED phone with a 5" screen over a 65" plasma?

I guess I see your point though. Those plasma's really have some terrible pq.
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Picture quality -- not size -- is everything to me. In fact, I would take a 24-inch OLED display over a 65-inch plasma display any day of the week.
You're 100% entitled to feel the way you feel but in this situation you're doing a completely wrong comparison. With the 64" 8500 you're not buying quantity over quality even when compared to a smaller OLED TV. The F8500 is one of the best plasmas ever made. You're comparison would be more inline if you were comparing a 64" LED/LCD TV to a much smaller OLED TV. With LED/LCD you're basically just paying for size, even if it's a FALD TV. They still aren't anywhere close to an F8500 Plasma.

I'm not just saying this because I just purchased a 64F8500 but I would take it over an overpriced OLED TV that hasn't been on the market long enough to iron out the bugs. Plasma has been out over 10 years and within the last 5 years it's gotten very good and is the industry leader in PQ and best bang for the buck. Sad that the technology is going away. For a long while LED/LCD TV's will be the industry standard. I have no belief that OLED will be affordable for most in large sizes for a long time.
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They are both excellent choices, in all seriousness it depends how far the seating area will be and what he wants to use it for mostly. Also how he feels about the $$$$ difference.

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So you would rather watch a movie on a Samsung OLED phone with a 5" screen over a 65" plasma?

I guess I see your point though. Those plasma's really have some terrible pq.
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then you most own an OLED then? how is it?

OLED isn't that much better than an f8500 yet, either.
24" screen size is the minimum I would want for an OLED display. I would just pull my chair up close.

I don't own an OLED, but I know that black level is the most important aspect of picture quality. My "holy grail" for a video display would be one that does not glow when showing a pure black screen. Give me an affordable OLED with low input lag and I would be in heaven.

I'm happy with my KRP-500M, but I would love to have a display capable of zero idle luminance and where I don't have to worry about red-tinted elevated blacks.
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24" screen size is the minimum I would want for an OLED display. I would just pull my chair up close.

I don't own an OLED, but I know that black level is the most important aspect of picture quality. My "holy grail" for a video display would be one that does not glow when showing a pure black screen. Give me an affordable OLED with low input lag and I would be in heaven.

I'm happy with my KRP-500M, but I would love to have a display capable of zero idle luminance and where I don't have to worry about red-tinted elevated blacks.
again, I'm totally with you! I miss that 'off black' look so much. there would be days when I had to double check the little red power light on my CRT RPTV to make sure it turned off, because there was no way to tell the difference between off and a black screen on it.


to this day, that has been the one thing I've never be able to find from a flat panel, and the reason I would STILL choose a CRT if the option were available. that is, up to about 50-55inches. anything larger than that I'd need a flatscreen just to get it into my basement. I have my fingers crossed, that oled will finally surpass crt in all the ways that matter to me. still doesn't look like it'll have a hope at competing with regards to input lag, or potentially motion either, but if can match CRT blacks, I WILL be an oled supporter eventually.

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