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Which Plasma TV for no SOE in 2014?

Hi Guys,

I am new to the forum, looks like a great place with lots of good info!

As my title says, I am looking for a new TV (50inch) in which I can be sure I will be able to turn off Intelligent Frame Creation, TruMotion, or whichever name the brand gave it.

I was about to purchase the LG 50PN650T until I got off the phone with LG support today who told me it was not possible to turn off TruMotion on any of their plasma TV (compared to their LCD ones?).

Now, do you guys have any suggestion on which brand/model to go for?

PS: I have read all the threads I found on the subject on AVS but nothing is that current and most models mentioned were from 2010/2012 so I guess things changed a bit since then.

Thank you for your help.

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I would recommend Samsung over lg. and unfortunately those are your only two options.


the Samsung f8500, is the last 'high end' plasma that will be on the market. it is without competition currently. the 5-series from Samsung is probably the next best option if you aren't looking for the best


I've never seen a tv with undefeatable FI, that's a weird move on LG's part if that's true. but I'd be less surprised if they just told you the wrong information. either way, it's definitely defeatable on the samsungs
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Hi Fierce,

Thanks for your reply.

What do you mean by LG and Samsung are my only options? Panasonic is not good for example?

Regarding the f8500 it is way over my budget. I am hoping to found something around the £500-700 mark as it seems like something like LG 50PN650T gives great results?

Any other views?

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Panasonic is no longer manufacturing plasma televisions. Any Panasonic you find will be used, or more than likely priced well above MSRP.
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Hi BTC,

What about that one :

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX...s=50+plasma+tv

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Hi BTC,

What about that one :

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX...s=50+plasma+tv

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It's a 2013 model and not full HD. 1024 x 768 resolution.
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There is no soap opera effect on either the Samsung F5300 or F4500. I recommend the 1920x1080p resolution 51F5300, or similar, which is currently selling for under $600 in the US (ie, well within your budget).

The less expensive 1024x768p resolution 43F4500 and 51F4500 also have no SOE. But they do have more SDE (screen door effect) than the 1080p 51F5300.

All of these displays produce beautiful images when properly lit and configured. And they all have pretty reflective screens, so you wouldn't want them facing a bright window, for example.

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It's a 2013 model and not full HD. 1024 x 768 resolution.
Hi Wxman,

Thanks for your reply.

Anything wrong with 2013 models? Also is Full HD really a big jump from HDReady?

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Thanks ADU;

Unfortunately, both F5300 or F4500 are not availlable in the UK in 50inch... Any other ones you could recommend?

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How far away will you be viewing the TV?

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Hi Wxman,

Thanks for your reply.

Anything wrong with 2013 models? Also is Full HD really a big jump from HDReady?

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If you are just using it for casual viewing, gaming etc, should be just fine. But you won't get the full HD experience with blu ray material.
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If you are in the UK, you might be in luck.

I'm not sure what's up with the links I'm trying to post, but if you Google Panasonic United Kingdom and go to their page, they seem to still have plasma televisions listed. That may not mean jack squat, but I thought there might still be a few available for purchase over there.

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Thanks ADU;

Unfortunately, both F5300 or F4500 are not availlable in the UK in 50inch... Any other ones you could recommend?

Thanks,
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just to make sure, Samsung uses 'funny' sizing. they'd be 51" models


imo, the f5300 is the choice within your budget. I've just never been a fan of LG plasmas black levels. why buy a plasma with terrible blacks?


I just quickly looked up Samsung's UK website, wow, they've REALLY cut back over there. looks like you have two options, H4500(aka, 10y old tech...) and the f8500(out of your budget)


I really can't recommend you buy a 1024x768 resolution display in this day and age. so you might be stuck with lg if you can't find some old panny that's been lost in a stockroom

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Hi Guys,

I am new to the forum, looks like a great place with lots of good info!

As my title says, I am looking for a new TV (50inch) in which I can be sure I will be able to turn off Intelligent Frame Creation, TruMotion, or whichever name the brand gave it.

I was about to purchase the LG 50PN650T until I got off the phone with LG support today who told me it was not possible to turn off TruMotion on any of their plasma TV (compared to their LCD ones?).

Now, do you guys have any suggestion on which brand/model to go for?

PS: I have read all the threads I found on the subject on AVS but nothing is that current and most models mentioned were from 2010/2012 so I guess things changed a bit since then.

Thank you for your help.

Best,
Jo

I have to disagree with LG. I have a pb6600 and you can easily turn off the trumotion. I'm pretty sure you can on any model.
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Panasonic 50PB2, it is a plasma monitor based on the ST60 with an upgrade in brightness but you lose the "louver filter" and all the smart features of a normal television, usually frame creation is an option on these monitors but it has been removed from this particular model

every command and option availible to the user is mentioned in this pdf (besides service menu adjustments) and below that are the model numbers I have found for each region
http://panasonic.net/prodisplays/support/download/pdf/65_50PB2_Serial_Command.pdf


50PB2U / 65PB2U Americas
50PB2E / 65PB2E Europe
50PB2W / 65PB2W Oceania
50PB2J / 65PB2J Japan
50PB2C / 65PB2C China
50PB2T / 65PB2T Taiwan
50PB2ER / 65PB2ER (unknown)
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How far away will you be viewing the TV?

3 to 3,50m away

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If you are in the UK, you might be in luck.

I'm not sure what's up with the links I'm trying to post, but if you Google Panasonic United Kingdom and go to their page, they seem to still have plasma televisions listed. That may not mean jack squat, but I thought there might still be a few available for purchase over there.

Hi BTC,

Here are the models available: http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer...ns/plasma.html

Can you recommend any of these (keeping in mind no SOE!)

Thanks,
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I have to disagree with LG. I have a pb6600 and you can easily turn off the trumotion. I'm pretty sure you can on any model.

Thanks for your reply.

Unfortunately the pb6600 is not available in the UK. I really need to be sure that trumotion can be turn off on the LG 50PN650T. I need someone who has the model and has done it!

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Panasonic 50PB2, it is a plasma monitor based on the ST60 with an upgrade in brightness but you lose the "louver filter" and all the smart features of a normal television, usually frame creation is an option on these monitors but it has been removed from this particular model

every command and option availible to the user is mentioned in this pdf (besides service menu adjustments) and below that are the model numbers I have found for each region
http://panasonic.net/prodisplays/support/download/pdf/65_50PB2_Serial_Command.pdf



50PB2U / 65PB2U Americas
50PB2E / 65PB2E Europe
50PB2W / 65PB2W Oceania
50PB2J / 65PB2J Japan
50PB2C / 65PB2C China
50PB2T / 65PB2T Taiwan
50PB2ER / 65PB2ER (unknown)

The 50PB2 is an interactive monitor aimed at presentations and stuff like that.. Not what I need and also cost £1700.

Thanks,
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So you are in the UK? maybe you can still find an TC-P50S60 or TC-P50ST60 but I'm not sure, the link you posted does not work
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Here is the link of the UK website : http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer...ns/plasma.html

not sure it will work in the US?
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For some reason when you try to link to the UK site, it doesn't work. You can go to Panasonic's UK site and navigate to plasma televisions. The site still shows the 60" ZT65 and several sizes in the VT65 series. If available, the ZT65's and VT65's would be the latest, greatest from Panasonic. I'm not sure what SOE is.
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What do you guys think of this one:

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-...10684-pdt.html

To be honest, I am lost.. Too many models...

Are there some models from Panasonic or others which are good for around £500-700 and which I can be sure I can turn off any feature which might provoke a soap opera effect?

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