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post #31 of 39 Old 08-22-2014, 07:10 AM
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Just want to chime in with a little empathy. My son also cracked my awesome Samsung pn64d7000 a few years ago. It sucks because you're mad but you really can't stay mad because it's your child. Gotta move on. And no, I didn't tell my 6yo he had to help pay for it - he was plenty upset. If you've got young kids, you're really safer going LCD.

Of course, that's easy to say but I hate LCD, so I'm taking a gamble with a new pn64f8500. I'm going to have a number of long talks with my rambunctious boys about why we have a "no throwing" rule, and I'm actually going to look into buying/making a clear protective cover for their daytime viewing that I can pop off in the evening after bed.
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Interesting. Is it a revision with cheaper components or just a poorly built TV that degrades over time?

Interesting.. 2013 vs 2014 Models?

http://www.niceelectronics.com/searc...l=F8500+SERIES

This is what I was originally looking at:

http://www.eastcoasttvs.com/Samsung-.../pn64f8500.htm

Thanks for the advice!

Also, to summarize, there are NO LED/LCD sets that even come close to the S64 in black levels/contrast even the higher end Samsungs and Sony XBRs?
please don't quote nice, eastcoast or abe's for information. they are misrepresenting many of the TV's in order to attract buyers. if you try to buy one of the 'non Samsung panels' they will call you back and tell you should pay another 400bux to avoid the 'panel lottery'. they use a lot of bait and switch tactics at those stores, and it leads to this kind of confusion.


truth is, there is no panel lottery, and I'm pretty sure anything else they say is untrue as well. most reputable sources say the f8500 has remained unchanged(aside from fw updates) between 2013 and 2014

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please don't quote nice, eastcoast or abe's for information. they are misrepresenting many of the TV's in order to attract buyers. if you try to buy one of the 'non Samsung panels' they will call you back and tell you should pay another 400bux to avoid the 'panel lottery'. they use a lot of bait and switch tactics at those stores, and it leads to this kind of confusion.


truth is, there is no panel lottery, and I'm pretty sure anything else they say is untrue as well. most reputable sources say the f8500 has remained unchanged(aside from fw updates) between 2013 and 2014
Roger that -- Those stores have awesome ratings but they don't know crap about their products.

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Well, so far, this S64 is absolutely stunning! It looks very similar to my ST30 but the extra size is fantastic while still remaining detailed and sharp. I have noticed I have to crank up the contrast, even in a dark room to get the picture bright off to impress but I can tweak it as I go. Minor quibble to a stunning picture in just 10 minutes of playing with basic settings.

THANK YOU all for the guidance. To be honest, this S64 looks just as good as the $3,000 Samsung 4K display I was checking out at Costco..
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THANK YOU all for the guidance. To be honest, this S64 looks just as good as the $3,000 Samsung 4K display I was checking out at Costco..
better imo

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After a bunch of testing, I am having a rough time using existing settings on CNET or these forums for my S64. Everyone is using Cinema or Custom and a contrast of 80 or so. Even in a dark room, the picture is DIM with those settings. Looks like my parents 1996 old, worn out rear projection set! Don't know if this is normal but I have to crank contrast up to at least 90 to get a solid looking image that isn't dark, drab and dull.

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settings SHOULD be adjusted from what you see online. your panel may be different, and your room and sources most definitely are.


I wouldn't worry if all you had to change was the moving the contrast from 80 to 90, especially if you've verified with a test pattern that it's not clipping white at that setting

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settings SHOULD be adjusted from what you see online. your panel may be different, and your room and sources most definitely are.


I wouldn't worry if all you had to change was the moving the contrast from 80 to 90, especially if you've verified with a test pattern that it's not clipping white at that setting
Thank you. Any harm on a plasma set to run at high (90+) contrast settings?

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Thank you. Any harm on a plasma set to run at high (90+) contrast settings?
well the contrast basically controls your peak brightness. I suppose having it set too high would increase the chance of IR. it will also crush whites if too high.


that being said, I'm not sure 90 is 'too high' by any means. the samsungs I've owned seem to be 'designed' around a contrast of 95,

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