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51F5300 Vs 55ST60 Vs 51F8500

I got rid of an old 2008 50" Hitachi Plasma as the main family TV - It had Anti-Glare but I don't know if I needed it or not. It was an ugly unit but I am realizing how great the PQ was. Replaced it with a Samsung LED 55H6350 that I just can't live with for sports which is my main thing. I am going to keep it as a secondary unit but I'm back on the market for a plasma.

  • I am certainly interested in the best value. Budget is a concern (wife is not happy that we need to buy another new TV 2 months later) but I will spend what I have to get my great sports viewing back.
  • Glare won't be an issue but the room does get one sliding glass door worth of morning sunlight (not directly facing the screen).
  • Ideally, the TV could be setup so that the cable remote controls the soundbar volume and can turn the TV, soundbar and cable box with one button. My new SmartTV does that and I am not sure if that is only an option on Smart TVs (this then hurts the case for the 51F5300)

  1. Samsung 51" F5300 for $500
  2. Panasonic 55" ST60 for $799.99 (Display model in perfect condition - 1000 hours no burn in - Have to drive 5 hours round trip and hope the associate on the phone described the condition well)
  3. Samsung 51" F8500 for $1680

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I got rid of an old 2008 50" Hitachi Plasma as the main family TV - It had Anti-Glare but I don't know if I needed it or not. It was an ugly unit but I am realizing how great the PQ was. Replaced it with a Samsung LED 55H6350 that I just can't live with for sports which is my main thing. I am going to keep it as a secondary unit but I'm back on the market for a plasma.

  • I am certainly interested in the best value. Budget is a concern (wife is not happy that we need to buy another new TV 2 months later) but I will spend what I have to get my great sports viewing back.
  • Glare won't be an issue but the room does get one sliding glass door worth of morning sunlight (not directly facing the screen).
  • Ideally, the TV could be setup so that the cable remote controls the soundbar volume and can turn the TV, soundbar and cable box with one button. My new SmartTV does that and I am not sure if that is only an option on Smart TVs (this then hurts the case for the 51F5300)

  1. Samsung 51" F5300 for $500
  2. Panasonic 55" ST60 for $799.99 (Display model in perfect condition 1000 hours no burn in - Have to drive 5 hours round trip and hope the associate on the phone described the condition well)
  3. Samsung 51" F8500 for $1680
I would steer towards the ST60 then. It has the best motion resolution out of three, so it's a good choice. If you're not comfortable with buying a display model, the F5300 with the B upgrade is also a great choice, although it lacks AR filter. (I wouldn't have recommended the F5300 with earlier A revision) The F8500 certainly has the best color accuracy out of three, but value-wise it is a bit lacking compared to the other two.
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I would steer towards the ST60 then. It has the best motion resolution out of three, so it's a good choice. If you're not comfortable with buying a display model, the F5300 with the B upgrade is also a great choice, although it lacks AR filter. (I wouldn't have recommended the F5300 with earlier A revision) The F8500 certainly has the best color accuracy out of three, but value-wise it is a bit lacking compared to the other two.
Thanks for the opinion. The 5300 is still readily available. If it does not have HDMI-CEC, does that mean that I will be controlling everything with separate remotes? I really want to stick with the the cable remote that is controlling 90% of the functionality I need but I beleive that is all being controlled by the Smart TV currently.

What is this B revision? How do I know?
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Thanks for the opinion. The 5300 is still readily available. If it does not have HDMI-CEC, does that mean that I will be controlling everything with separate remotes? I really want to stick with the the cable remote that is controlling 90% of the functionality I need but I beleive that is all being controlled by the Smart TV currently.

What is this B revision? How do I know?
I don't believe the 5300 has CEC. So you would need a Harmony remote if you want everything working via a single remote. Pretty much any new 5300 will be a B revision (they are the 2014 panels). I think your wife will be okay with the Harmony + F5300 budget v/s the cost of the F8500. The Panasonic is also a great option if it is in good condition. But warranty may be an issue?

I love the F5300, but my only concern for you would be whether the glare from the screen would be acceptable to you during daytime viewing (or with lights turned on at night).
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I don't believe the 5300 has CEC. So you would need a Harmony remote if you want everything working via a single remote. Pretty much any new 5300 will be a B revision (they are the 2014 panels). I think your wife will be okay with the Harmony + F5300 budget v/s the cost of the F8500. The Panasonic is also a great option if it is in good condition. But warranty may be an issue?

I love the F5300, but my only concern for you would be whether the glare from the screen would be acceptable to you during daytime viewing (or with lights turned on at night).
Great points. Thank you.
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st60 best value by far
f8500 best tv by slight margin
f5300's really only become popular because it's the only good plasma left for a reasonable price... last year it was 'meh' in the market for of cheap Panasonics(like the s60 and st60).


unless things have drastically changed since last year(when I was shopping), I would say the st60 is 95% the tv the f8500 is, it's 10% worse in a bright room, but 5% better in a dark room. the f5300 is decidedly third place in both situations. respectable, but imo it's price fairly. the st60 is priced much lower than it should be.
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What is this B revision? How do I know?
I just purchased the 5300B this past weekend. Look at the serial number on the box, and if the first letter after the 5300 is a "B" .. you've got the B model. Netflix looks great on the 5300 btw
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60F5300 is $649 at Costco.
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Hopefully you bought the ST60 already because that is the best value to picture you have listed here by far.

I personally would not spend that much money for a 51" TV like you have the F8500 listed here unless that was the largest size TV you could fit in your space and you wanted the best 51" TV you could buy.

At that price I would want bigger! For less money then the 51F8500 you could get a 64" H5000 which would give you a stunning picture that would satisfy most people. It has been said that black levels on that TV have measured even lower then the F8500 but I know there have been some doubts to that. Even so, entertaining even the thought of that says a lot about the picture of the H5000.

Oh, I would also return or sell the the LED and replace it with a F5300 as your second TV.

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I'm a little late with this, but FWIW we have the F8500 (64"), along with the Samsung HW-550 soundbar and the Samsung cable box that is available for about $125 from Amazon (yay, no more cable box rental fees!). The F8500 television remote control handles everything on all devices. Power, volume, channel-changing, cable guide. It's a great setup.

There's a promotion running on the F8500 now, you can get a free Samsung HW-450 soundbar, or $250 towards a nicer soundbar like the HW-550.
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