Originally Posted by Vader1
I'm still caught between the idea of getting that used 111FD from that guy or saying screw it and going with OLED. I will know soon because I am supposed to get the 111FD Friday so I will be deciding very soon. I love the picture of my 5080 and to think that it's only an 8G KURO with 720p only really makes me wonder just how awesome the 111FD is. Plus I love the frame and design of KURO's more than any TV available. Pioneer designed the hell out of that thing, it looks so great. I really don't care for the frameless design (but could live with surely if it's an OLED) and every time I go to best buy I think almost all of the TV's just look bland cosmetically. Actually the only one I like out now is the Vizio T series. Also the Pioneers have much better speakers than all the OLED's except for the G6 and E6 which I will never be getting unless I win the lottery... I am not crazy about OLED's motion problems either, although when I am at Best Buy and I see those blacks and those extremely vivid (not in the bad, cartoonish kind of way either) colors I think I could live with the uninteresting cosmetic design and the less than perfect motion. I almost have enough money saved up for the 9100 too, I could probably get it in 2 months if I want.
KURO vs. OLED... the hardest decision of my life apparently.
I just made my 5020 into an e-lite using the board modification (excellent seller on eBay, kcrownie, did it for $35) method, and while I do think it improved the PQ slightly, it simply still can't compare to my 9100 in a completely dark room environment. Edit: my 5020 had been twice calibrated for grayscale by dnice and had voltage tweaks by both dnice, Eddie (from the Kuro tweaking threads-very helpful gent), and more aggressive ones by myself.
Maybe it would have a better chance in bright environments now than before the mod, considering I have the potential to unlock ISF Day...but I doubt I'll be doing that, seeing as how it's going to be my backup, and not in a main room with a lot of lighting. Plus, it's got 25k+ hours and has started to buzz a little more recently so I'd rather keep it on power saver and in pure/movie/game modes which stay dim enough to not tax the tv too much (I hope).
The 9100 was $1275 on the most recent eBay sale. I'd snap one up before the 1080p oleds are all gone, especially considering the Kuro would only be a half step above your 8500 (which I would absolutely save and not sell if you can manage to salvage it for $50...plus, in selling, you should feel a moral obligation to tell the buyer about the previous failure which could affect the price)
I've seen a lot of panasonics, samsungs, and kuros, and while each are excellent in their own right (and the kuros the most so, all things considered), none can do what an Oled can. Just my opinion