Originally Posted by ikjadoon
Right?! I almost came home too late; the whole family had already given up that it had died for good. After 30 seconds of Google'ing, you can see that the blinks are incredibly easy to repair.
Maybe a different sort of crowd.
Picked up a 60GT50 from a fella who is moving overseas soon. He let me have it for $350, and I have a feeling if I pressed, I could have gotten it for even less because he didn't seem to need the money. We were having good conversation about tech and lamenting the lack of progress regarding true picture quality, so I didn't want to sour the mood by low balling.
Anyway, amazing tv for the price. No burn-in, banding, or other flaws I can find, and the tv only has ~5,000 hours on it!! Which, for a tv made in 2012 which acted as his main display while he worked from home, is pretty great in my book.
For comparison, the two Pioneer 5020s I own have 25k and 40k hours which are just absurd numbers. Those two still work like a charm (although the 40k hour count one does get noticeably hot after even 20 minutes of operation).
Things I like best about the new set:
Amazing picture quality (especially for the money). Being a long time Pioneer Kuro fanboy, I was surprised at what equal footing this GT was on with the two black level tweaked 5020s I have! Blacks aren't quite as dark (obviously) but if you have a Kuro with a lot of hours and haven't done any black level tweaking to combat the rising (and reddening) blacks, I'd say it's much closer than you would think after reading these forums for years.
Aside from blacks, I can't think of much the Pioneers do better than the Panasonic. In fact, I think I may prefer the Panasonic's near-black shadow rendition (both sets at 2.4 gamma)...there's just more detail there! So, I'll take a much bigger, lighter, thinner, more stylish TV from 2012 over a Kuro at this price any day.
In fact, I DID. I had the option to buy a 6020FD for $50 less. have watched Craigslist religiously for these things for years and they don't pop up that frequently so it's amazing that two 60 inch bargains dropped at the same time.
I passed because buying a 2008 vs a 2012 was more of a gamble and the last CL Pioneer was the one with 40k hours. I didn't want to have to move that hulking heater into my new apartment when I move. The quality of life benefits the Panasonic provides are worth it to me, and I'm beginning to think I might actually prefer the picture.
It's just got a more 'fluid' image. Some have described the Kuro's picture as being 'coarser' and I think I would tend to agree with that. I read a good article recently on such a comparison and it detailed the panel driving methods which are behind that difference in appearance. I will link if I can find. Purists may prefer the Pioneer method because it may appear a little more 'analog' to some while the Panasonic, while still incredibly natural looking, could be construed as being in the 'digital' camp.
Now that I have an OLED as my main display though, I think I'm firmly in the 'digital' but cleaner image camp (but still with far more natural colors and greater image depth than LED).