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Try a search for:

floating blacks
changing black level
DC restoration

The 8uk's have it too, although there is a service menu fix for the 37" and 42" HD sets. And there are ways to minimize it on the consumer models.

On a properly calibrated display, it is tough to see the effect with normal content material.

If it's not worth waiting until the last minute to do, then it's not worth doing.

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Actually I don't own the 65" Panasonic plasma...

Not yet...


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Press Release in English now available at the FAQ:

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The glass is thinner - 1.8mm compared to 2.8mm from previous Models.



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The 58" is officially 768p:

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

Well, it was to be expected, although I still hoped for 1080p.

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According to the link I just posted it seems that the new plasmas do support 1080p input! The text explicitly states that it's not yet HDMI 1.3, though

If this is also true for the US Viera models, this is a hugh step, imo. I too read that as indicating that 1080p input would be accepted on the HDMI inputs of the 58", 50", 42", and 37" px600 models.

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The HDMI terminal corresponds to the input of the 1080p with all model. It can cooperate with the DIGA " DMR-EX550 " which corresponds to 1080p output and so on. Furthermore, it is not the next generation HDMI standard which corresponds to largest each color 16bit transmission, until recently it has become the HDMI of the same each color 8bit transmission

TH-58PX600 - 1,366×768 - HDMI 1080p input correspondence
TH-50PX600 - 1,366×768 - HDMI 1080p input correspondence
TH-42PX600 - 1,024×768 - HDMI 1080p input correspondence
TH-37PX600 - 1,024×720 - HDMI 1080p input correspondence
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I'm trying to decide which model to buy (or wait for...) and need some information to help decide. Here are my questions:

1. What are the dimensions for the 42PX60U and 42PX600U?
(Need to know if it will fit in my cabinet. From the pictures, it looks like the speakers are detachable on the 600U. If so, do you know the width with and without the speakers?)

2. Are the only differences between the 60U and 600U in the features (e.g., cable card slot, on-screen guide, etc.)? In other words, is the picture quality (including scaling, etc.) exactly the same for these two models?

It may be my imagination, but when viewing standard definition TV on the 42PX500U, it seemed to have noticeably better quality than the 42PX50U model. Was I dreaming? From what I've seen, the 60 and 600 have the exact same specs for the picture components -- does this mean they share the same circuitry?

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

regards,

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Try a search for:

floating blacks
changing black level
DC restoration

The 8uk's have it too, although there is a service menu fix for the 37" and 42" HD sets. And there are ways to minimize it on the consumer models.

On a properly calibrated display, it is tough to see the effect with normal content material.

Thanks, Kevin. But all I want to know is what it looks like. Is my assumption correct, or not? (should it be a complicated answer?)

Thanks!
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Here's an explanation of floating blacks from a review I read:

"the XXX tends to float blacks, meaning that black areas became brighter when other areas of the screen increased in brightness"

this wasn't a review of the Panny, by the way. I have no idea how big of an issue it has been in past models, though.
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What's the difference between 60U and 8UK series (apart from obvious speakers and tuner)? Was set in getting 42THD8UK but now wondering whether I should get 60U or wait for industrial version of 60U
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I'm trying to decide which model to buy (or wait for...) and need some information to help decide. Here are my questions:

1. What are the dimensions for the 42PX60U and 42PX600U?
(Need to know if it will fit in my cabinet. From the pictures, it looks like the speakers are detachable on the 600U. If so, do you know the width with and without the speakers?)

rick

42px60u - fm. Panny web site (I won't have mine til the weekend)
27.8" x 40.2" x 3.7"

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Press Release in English now available at the FAQ:

http://www.bruzzi.ws/plasma-faq/anno...ouncementid=12


The glass is thinner - 1.8mm compared to 2.8mm from previous Models.



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Yay! That's the first time I've seen that release. So they ARE claiming deeper blacks, and mention an upgraded black drive system. That's great! I can't wait to see one.

The only frustration is that the same claims aren't made for the darned 1080p model that I'm waiting on!
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I am looking at either the 37" or 42" for my bedroom - TV will be 5' from foot of the bed and 11' from headboard. Should I go with the 42?? Is there a real difference in picture quality ( I note they have different resolutions)

Definitely the 42". I have the th50px50u in my family room and view from 12 feet. It's nice and big, but not too big. So 42" from 11 feet would be the smallest I would go.
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I'm trying to decide which model to buy (or wait for...) and need some information to help decide. Here are my questions:

1. What are the dimensions for the 42PX60U and 42PX600U?
(Need to know if it will fit in my cabinet. From the pictures, it looks like the speakers are detachable on the 600U. If so, do you know the width with and without the speakers?)

2. Are the only differences between the 60U and 600U in the features (e.g., cable card slot, on-screen guide, etc.)? In other words, is the picture quality (including scaling, etc.) exactly the same for these two models?

It may be my imagination, but when viewing standard definition TV on the 42PX500U, it seemed to have noticeably better quality than the 42PX50U model. Was I dreaming? From what I've seen, the 60 and 600 have the exact same specs for the picture components -- does this mean they share the same circuitry?

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

regards,

rick

you cant take the speakers off the 600u. the speakers are the silver part on the sides of the tv here. they are SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPER thin and took me a minute to actually find them!!!

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...4481858fBuoDn#
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Fugly.
And I really had high hopes for these. This extra width and silver bezel just ruin it for me. What was wrong with speakers on the bottom where they almost seem to disappear?

Oh well... guess I'll keep waiting.

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by local BB in milpitas, ca has confirmed they have 50 of the 42in in the wearhouse
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Sorry Rich, I had you confused with someone else.
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According to the link I just posted it seems that the new plasmas do support 1080p input! The text explicitly states that it's not yet HDMI 1.3, though.

Will any of these TVs be equipped with dual tuners and a two-way CableCARD slot?
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$MSRP ONLY$. That is the price Magnolia BB in San Antonio is charging for the 42px60. I am anxious to get one but that is a couple hundy over MSRP and listings by forum sponsors. But I could take delivery tomorrow. Stupid instant gratification nagging at me.
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You'll have 30 days to price match after your purchase. Hopefully by then either BB will lower their price to something more reasonable or another store will advertise their price as lower.
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That is the price Magnolia BB in San Antonio is charging for the 42px60. I am anxious to get one but that is a couple hundy over MSRP and listings by forum sponsors. But I could take delivery tomorrow. Stupid instant gratification nagging at me.

There use to be a guy in NYC "hawking" TVs who went by the name "Crazy Eddie" and his prices were "Insane!"... wait a couple of months and you'll probably get the 42PX60U for $300 below MSRP.
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That is the price Magnolia BB in San Antonio is charging for the 42px60. I am anxious to get one but that is a couple hundy over MSRP and listings by forum sponsors. But I could take delivery tomorrow. Stupid instant gratification nagging at me.

When I checked on a 50px60u at my local BB (central Ohio), I watched the sales guy surf the net looking for a model number for the 50" and when he found several pre-order websites listing them for the actual MSRP and then found the BB price at $300 more (even though their records showed none available), he tried to tell me that the others were selling at below retail, and then proceeded to bad mouthed internet sales. LOL.
Makes me wonder if one should jump on the first good pre-shipped price posted on the net. If these units sell as fast as I believe they will, discounts may be hard to find.
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Question is will anyone have them. Don't forget how hard Panasonics are to find. Right now I think the advantage is that most think these are being released in mid April.
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Yay! That's the first time I've seen that release. So they ARE claiming deeper blacks, and mention an upgraded black drive system. That's great! I can't wait to see one.

The only frustration is that the same claims aren't made for the darned 1080p model that I'm waiting on!

Especially the contrast... It is very disappointing. We finally get the non-progressive HD units to match the ED sets (in theory anyway), but no such claims are made for the 1080p panal. There are alot more pixels to light up though.

Oh well, I guess its a kinda a moot point since we have essentally no 1080p content. Well, BluRay is right around the corner...
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Can anybody explain the references to "16-bit maximum processing" on these sets, and the reference above to the 16-bit part of the HDMI 1.3 specification?
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There use to be a guy in NYC "hawking" TVs who went by the name "Crazy Eddie" and his prices were "Insane!"... wait a couple of months and you'll probably get the 42PX60U for $300 below MSRP.


months?? how 'bout NOW. I hear CC will under cut the MSRP by that much next week.
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Anyone have the exact dimensions for the 37PX60U?
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wow, at least your CC stores have a clue! around here, they act like they barely know that there are new ones coming out. i keep asking when and they say they just don't know because "the system" is not set up. i guess we around here will just get them later than the rest of the US.
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That is the price Magnolia BB in San Antonio is charging for the 42px60. I am anxious to get one but that is a couple hundy over MSRP and listings by forum sponsors. But I could take delivery tomorrow. Stupid instant gratification nagging at me.

The BB here in the SF East Bay also has it in their system for $500 over the $2499 MSRP on the Panny site. HOWEVER, when i went in on Tues. to buy one they price matched the other BB stores where a few other members bought at or below MSRP. No hassle. I pick mine up this weekend.
There is also one AVS sponsor, think we are allowed to mention names, Cleveland Plasma, who has some in stock. His ad is usually at the bottom on the page here. His prices are good.

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How many HDMI inputs does the 37PX60U have?
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There is also one AVS sponsor, think we are allowed to mention names, Cleveland Plasma, who has some in stock. His ad is usually at the bottom on the page here. His prices are good.

They have a nice special posted on their site, now, for the 42PX60U, too.

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I would like one of the new 50px60u units, but I'm going to continue to hold off until the pricing gets in line -- it was still my understanding that the MSRP is:

42px60u - $2499
50px60u - $3499

So why would anyone buy the 42px60u for $2999? Just because they can get it "right now"? I'll take a pass on that one. I'm certainly not paying MORE than MSRP.

With all the craziness over pricing, I may just try and pick up last year's TH-50PHD8UK since they seem to be coming available again.
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