Originally Posted by johnnybrulez
Black levels is NOT the only parameter! Of course not. But with the new gen Pioneers, I don't think color reproduction/video processing... or any of the other factors to a good picture are much of a concern because I think any Pioneer is top notch in terms of these parameters.
Not to say that the black levels are not awesome because honestly? They're part of the best in class in digital flat panels in the new-gen (and that includes Panasonic). Just a simple question about black levels, I do not want to raise up any "king" questions please.
All of these sets, (excluding those cheap ass series) are great... to the 70 series, to the Elites, to the Pro-FHD1!
In terms of when I saw the Pro-FHD1 vs. the 1140, I saw what I saw, but I can only attest so much to an in-store picture... granted I was in a dark room but w/o total control w/ both TV sets I cannot be totally sure.
Simple question, that can be answered by a person that has both TVs. I love 1080p too, but the pixel count is not the deal maker for me.
I understand what you're asking about, but I would really hate to start an entire new round of the "black levels are all that matters/no, they're not" and "you can't tell the difference between 1080p and 768p at more than X feet/yes, you can" that plagued the first FHD1 thread.
Having said that, I will offer my impressions, along with the disclaimer that they are solely based on my opinion and are valid only for my particular units in my house with my viewing material. First of all, my FHD1 has been professionally calibrated, and it has a slightly lower 0 IRE level (0.028 foot-lamberts) after calibration than it did before (0.039 ftl) when I was using some popular settings from the AVS forum. The 1140 has not been calibrated, but I have adjusted its parameters myself based very closely on the FHD1 settings. When watching something like a 4 x 3 upconverted program being shown on an HD station which adds black pillar-bars, those bars appear slightly darker on the 1140, but the 1140 is mounted against a nearly white wall, while the FHD1 sits inside a wall cabinet originally sized for a rear projection TV. Also, the ambient light control is much better in the FHD1's room. So, yes, black letterbox bars or pillar-box bars do appear slightly darker on my 1140 than on my FHD1. However, I can't detect any ill effects in terms of the FHD1's picture quality as a result of this. If you'll look back to the earlier part of this thread, you can find the calibration results of my FHD1 as posted by umr. Those post-calibration results clearly show that the FHD1 is an outstanding performer.
My viewing position for the FHD1 is about 9 feet, and I mainly watch HD-DVD and, recently, Blu-ray movies, some network HD shows like "Daybreak" and "Heroes", and HD football. The FHD1's performance for this wide variety of programming is outstanding, and with all due respect to some other posters, I believe the FHD1 performs better and appears slightly sharper than the 1140 when it is viewed at the same 9 foot distance.
You may be asking yourselves, if he likes the FHD1 so much, why did he buy the 1140 instead of another FHD1? Well, there are several reasons. One, the 1140 obviously costs less (<$4K versus >$6K). Two, the 1140 is in our living room over the fireplace, and while you can stand at the same distance in front of it that the seated viewing distance is for the FHD1, the seated distance for the 1140 is about 14 feet. Three, the 1140 has an internal tuner and accepts a cablecard, and I wanted to be able to just watch the TV on a standalone basis occasionally when I didn't want to fire up the second zone of the AV system that feeds my living room. Finally, I chose the 1140 versus a 1540 since the 1140 was the largest set that would fit the space over my fireplace.
It still boils down to individual preferences, cost considerations, primary types of programming to be viewed, room lighting, etc. In my case, I'm lucky to have both sets. If I could only get one, I'd get the FHD1 since it best meets my requirements and preferences for the home theater room where I have it installed.
Hope this helps, but it's just my opinion.
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