[quote=reio-ta]I thought I wouldn't have to get into why but, you can like the result and not how it gets it or the quality of that result. Sure CRT does show the shadows and has a superb shadow detail. It doesn't however have a great contrast ratio. A CRT never quite become pitch black, it's able to have a huge dynamic contrast ratio of over 30,0000:1 but a lousy 800:1 CR. CRT has a lousy on/off CR compared to LCD. You can give the LCD a checker pattern and then measure light output, which will beat the CRT hands down. But put in a really dark movie like a few dark scenes from Alien, you see nothing at all but blackness. All current plasmas even have that problem to some extent.
CRT is bad because:
1) It's fuzzy and soft, not quite as sharp
2) I get headaches from the refresh cycle, bad flicker!
3) convergence, no CRT is 100% perfect (plasma is 100% perfect)
4) banding issues
5) floating blacks, dc restoration issues
6) can't hang it on the wall
7) not cool, impressing the Jones's is very important!
8) You just don't get the "punch" of a plasma
9) Pixels bleed, if you set the brightness too high you never bloom on plasma
10) barrel distortion, which is why a CRT will overscan
11) can't get 1:1 1080p
12) size limited. Largest CRT HDTV is the 34" Sony. Way too small!
XBR960: I just had to take up for my friend, he doesnt talk,
I disagree with most, what CRT were you watching or are you just generalizing it's faults as I could of Plasmas or LCDs or RP
CRTs are bad because they stop making the good ones and they are not improving, I dont think CES announced any by Sony, the best CRT makers.
So I am forced to get newer tech for my next set. Plasma, led LCD, OLED, SED.
Heres my rebuke:
1) Detailed Sharp and clear, best SD, best HD
2)No headaches, flickering is no more noticeable then flickering on LCDs and Plasmas
3)Geometry is a fault, I agree with you there, however I have heard of many digital displays that are not perfect perfect but much better than CRTS, mine is almost perfect.
4)Banding is a problem with more than just CRTs, haha
5)Floating blacks? not sure what that is, but it is better than floating grays, dc restoration, Dont know what that means??
6) Can hang on the wall go to any hospital, walmart, etc. for the last 30 years.
7)Very Cool! I get nothing but compliments for the style of tv and more important the picture quality and for going against the slim is in craze, although some think I have a flat screen, the sony stand gives it that illusion.RETRO MAN!
8)MuchMore Punch than Any Plasma I have seen so far, havent seen the CES models or the Panasonic 65 and 103" though.
9)Apples and oranges here, but true it will bloom if set to high as Plamas can still have image retention if it's settings are to high, Pixels can bleed or you can have stuck always on always off pixels on a plasmas, again apples and oranges pick your poison.
10)Any display can have overscan, true CRTS usually have more, mine is about 2-2.5 percent after calibration.
11) Not true,
1080P and above have neen available on most high end Computer monitors since the early to mid 90's, long before lcd or plasma.
On HDTV you are limited to 1440x1080i (1.5 million pixels)-true 480P-960i-540P and with a good video card you can come close to 720P something like 1163x683. Resolution comes way behind so many other things when it comes to PQ as has been proven by many tests.
12)Size limited is so true, I believe the biggest was 40" I came from a 27" so 34" was not to small for me PQ trumps screen size everytime, also the pixels are closer on this size you cant even see the pixel strure unless you are like 1 feet away , thhis gives a silky smooth looking out an open window look.end:
Originally Posted by reio-ta
So I don't see what there is to like about CRT one bit. But there is everything to love about plasma, except less than stellar dynamic range and shadow detail compared to CRT. CRT is a dying technology, but until those two characteristics, which everyone touts to exude why "CRT IS THE BEST!", there will always be those people. So I wasn't being "contradictory" as you say. DC restoration is a HUGE issue with CRT. I don't like that when you get a brighter scene, the quality of the black changes, which is why it has such a high dynamic range, but black levels are not good at all!
XBR960: What SD HDTV have you've been viewing, it muct not be a quality calibrated set, I wouldnt like that one either, it is like seeing a plasma with big burn in and reflection issues and saying all plasmas are that bad or an LCD with ghosting and motion artifacts, bad color gray blacks and saying they are all that bad.
A lot of things we watch and see in print are still mastered on "Quality CRTS, yes there is crap CRTS out there, but many are great.
In general most experts still believe Quality CRTs still give the best PQ, Even many TV manufactors have said as much and they are still trying to reach that point, they all cant be wrong.
That said my next TV wont be CRT, unless I can find a XBR960, but a plasma,LED LCD, OLED or sed