Originally Posted by D-Nice
I agree that when comparing numbers they should be done by the same reviewer and source. However, RichB has a history of not following those ideas. I'm just using his own tactics and words against him....hoping to pull his more respectable personality out. So far I have failed as he continues to post propaganda.
Really. Here is my post that you yourself quoted:
Originally Posted by RichB
If you take the HDTVExpert's .154 nit and convert it to Foot Lamberts I come out with .045 which is OK , but not up to the .015 published by The Perfect Vision for the PH 768P model. These are not the same reviewers and so the methodology may be a bit different, but it does suggest that it is not insignificantly higher than the lower resolution 50.
I said where they were measured and that they may not be comparable. I am trying not to call you names, but you and the truth are strangers
Originally Posted by D-Nice
No thank you. Please keep your newly developed "black level classifications" to yourself. IMO, you should brush up on you basic math skills.
Numbers do not tell the whole story, but there is still relevant information here.
HomeTheater magazine measurements of the Panasonic Black were .027 for the 8 series and .012 for the 9 series. In what universe is that not twice as good?
My original point was that Panasonic never made a big deal about it. Never announced it. So it is possible that there are improvements in the new line that have not been announced *again*. Is there something to argue about this?
The Pioneer 5060 measured at .033fl. I have not seen published measurements of the 5070's black level. If I had them, I would post them. You insist that they are *as good* or perhaps *as bad* as the current Panasonic 768P Plasmas.
Perhaps, but there is no objective measurement at this time.
Occasionally, you have some good information (at least I hope so), but you personal observations are highly biased and of little use to me. News that there are better black levels coming is great. Pioneer has pushed some aspects of Plasma performance forward like processing, film frame rates, ISF calibration, color reproduction. I applaud this. However, the black levels have always trailed. I am not sure about the newer 1080P models since Panasonic took a step backward. I have no intention of buying an upgrade until black levels are improved from some vendor. Period.
Obviously, Pioneer has a problem with black their levels, thus need to completely redesign their Plasma from the ground up.
Now as to which panel brand I buy, there is plenty of time to determine that since by the time new Pioneer arrives, the Panasonic Panels will be available and reviewed.
Right now, there is no way to form an intelligent opinion. Of course, that would stop the less "nice" posters.