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52 year old female school teacher here. I am not someone who has to have the best and latest of everything, so a lot of this talk about blackest blacks is really over my head. I can't see it.
I (think I) have decided to purchase Panasonic TH42PX60 from a local store. I just feel more comfortable about purchasing local in case something is wrong with the product.
Anyway, I am waiting to see if the price drops a little in the next few weeks. (I would like to have it for March Madness, but if it doesn't happen for the first round, so be it.)
I purchased the book HDTV for Dummies, but I am still confused about everything to do with cables, DVD players and hook-ups.

I think I will have to hire someone to come and hook everything up. We have Comcast TV (On-Demand box). I believe we will have to have another box in order to get HD. I was hoping to get the cable guy to hook everything up if he has to come out to bring another box. If not, then I have the name of someone I can hire.

So, what type of cables will I need to have on hand so when this person comes out to hook everything up, I can get it done immediately? (I don't want to rely on the advice of a salesperson at the store.) We only own a VCR (which is probably more than 10 years old). I guess we will have purchase a DVD player instead of using the old VCR, but I have no idea what type of things we would need to make it compatible with the plasma TV. Ideally, we would like to be able to tape television programs (usually sports), which is what we use the VCR for. So, I guess that means we should look for a DVD recorder? I want to be able to walk in and tell the salesperson I want this in a DVD player and then have them direct me to the ones which have what I want. Can someone tell me what type of DVD player (or recorder) we would need that would work with this tv? I don't necessarily need to know brand names, just what qualifications I need so that it can be hooked up to the TV and be compatible.

I was thinking at some point getting a HTIB (since it seems easiest for us to figure out what we would need and what will be compatible), but I wasn't thinking of making that purchase until I heard the speakers on the television. (If they are sufficient, then I didn't think we would need to spend the money on the HTIB.) It looks like most of them come with a DVD/receiver. So, should we not purchase a separate DVD, and just go ahead and buy the HTIB when we get the TV? And if so, what type of things do we need to make sure it has so that it is compatible with this TV? And what cables should we get so it can be hooked up at the same time.

After reading many of these threads, I sometimes wonder if we should just stick with our 17 year old 25-inch screen RCA. Maybe plasmas are too advanced for us? But, I keep hoping that once we have the TV here, that everything that I have read about concerning what to do to set it will make sense.

Any help anyone can give to me would be helpful. My husband doesn't think we need to get a plasma, so this is why I am the one who is doing all of the research. But technology is changing waaaay too fast for me and I can't keep up. Sometimes it's rough getting old (er).
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I would be more than happy to help you. I have both Comcast and HDTV

But to do that I will need to ask some questions first:

1. How much HDTV do you plan on watching?

A. As Much as we can
B. Some - it depends on what's on
C: None

2. Your 10 old VCR

A. I have alot of precorded tapes
B. I have no precorded tapes only those I made
C. I use the VCR strictly for recording TV shows to play back later

3. How important is surround sound to both you and your husband?

A. Important but we are a bit afraid of the setting up, and hookup
B. It would be nice
C. Not important at all, we don't need it

4. How often do you go to the movies?

A. once a week
B. once every other week
C.Once a month
D. Rarely if ever

If you answer these questions I believe I can help you get the best out of the dollars you have budgeted for your purchase.

If within a question, more than one answer applies, just list both:

EXAMPLE:

1. A 2. C 3.A & B 4. C

Looking forward to hearing from you. Once I get these answered, we can move at any pace you will feel comfortable and I promise to use only English . . . no technospeak

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If I were you, I wouldn't have the cable guy hook it up. Most of them do not know how to hook HDTV up. They usually don't even hook the cable box up correctly to the HDTV's. I would get a DVR from comcast instead of a DVD recorder, unless you plan on keeping the recordings after you make them. DVR's allow you to pause live tv, record easily using their on screen TV Guide in the cable box. DVR's have a hard drive built in to them, and that's where the show is recorded. You'll be addicted to it if you get one. The TV you list, TH42PX60, has 2 HDMI inputs, so you should be able to hook up your cable box to the TV using an HDMI cable (buy them from monoprice.com, very cheap and very good). You may want to get a separate DVD player. In my experience, HTIB that include the DVD player have very limited connectivity, and limit the user a lot. I'd rather see you buy something like an Oppo 970 DVD player and connect it with HDMI cable. Then buy a separate receiver and speakers later after you have decided you want surround sound. The VCR will look bad on the plasma, but that's just what VCR's do. You can connect it with the composite cable that you probably use now (yellow, red, white connectors). So you need 2 HDMI cables from monoprice.com. Check with comcast to make sure the box you are going to get will have HDMI output. Otherwise you'll have to use a component cable. Both HDMI and component cables will look about the same displayed on the TV. The only benefit I see from HDMI is you only need one cable for video and audio. That means one cable for the cable box, and one cable for the DVD player. Makes connecting easy. After you get those things working, then worry about junking it up with surround sound wiring .

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I would be more than happy to help you. I have both Comcast and HDTV

But to do that I will need to ask some questions first:

1. How much HDTV do you plan on watching?

A. As Much as we can
B. Some - it depends on what's on
I wonder if we would end up watching more tv when it is HD

2. Your 10 old VCR

A. I have alot of precorded tapes (but I don't watch them. They are mainly Disney.)
B. I have no precorded tapes only those I made (of our sons when they were small)
C. I use the VCR strictly for recording TV shows to play back later (The remote is long gone, so we cannot program the VCR to tape at set times. So, about the only things we tape are Florida (basketball and football) games when our youngest son is at work, but he is leaving for college in June. If the Jaguars are playing on Monday night, we turn the VCR on when we leave for the game so we can see what the game looked like on television.)
I will keep this VCR and hook it up to another TV if I want to watch the tapes of the boys. I think I would prefer a DVD player. Right now, I watch movies on my school-issued laptop. So, it would be nice to watch movies on a larger screen, without headphones on.


3. How important is surround sound to both you and your husband?
B. It would be nice


4. How often do you go to the movies?

D. Rarely - I usually wait until it comes out at Blockbuster, but if it is a movie I really want to see, I will go to the theater. I may go to the theater 4 times a year. My husband doesn't like to watch many movies.

If you answer these questions I believe I can help you get the best out of the dollars you have budgeted for your purchase.

If within a question, more than one answer applies, just list both:

EXAMPLE:

1. A 2. C 3.A & B 4. C

Looking forward to hearing from you. Once I get these answered, we can move at any pace you will feel comfortable and I promise to use only English . . . no technospeak

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Thanks for any help you can offer, Lee.
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If I were you, I wouldn't have the cable guy hook it up. Most of them do not know how to hook HDTV up. They usually don't even hook the cable box up correctly to the HDTV's.
Thanks for the advice.


I would get a DVR from comcast instead of a DVD recorder, unless you plan on keeping the recordings after you make them. DVR's allow you to pause live tv, record easily using their on screen TV Guide in the cable box. DVR's have a hard drive built in to them, and that's where the show is recorded. You'll be addicted to it if you get one.
I didn't even know that type of thing existed. As you can tell, we are not "into" technology. Heck, we didn't even get a cordless phone until about 5 years ago. Only when we feel we really need it, then we get it. (We had dial-up for our computer until last year!!) As I said, my husband doesn't think we need to get a plasma TV, but our oldest son put the bug in my head last summer. Of course, he is now bragging to his younger brother that he is the reason why mom and dad are getting a plasma tv.

The TV you list, TH42PX60, has 2 HDMI inputs, so you should be able to hook up your cable box to the TV using an HDMI cable (buy them from monoprice.com, very cheap and very good). So, I need two? Do they come in different lengths? I am going to stand this TV on a lowboy piece of furniture and all of the outlets and cable connection will be about 3-4 feet away.

You may want to get a separate DVD player. In my experience, HTIB that include the DVD player have very limited connectivity, and limit the user a lot. I'd rather see you buy something like an Oppo 970 DVD player Oppo? Is that a brand or type of DVD player? I have seen it on this site, but didn't know what anyone was talking about.

and connect it with HDMI cable. Then buy a separate receiver and speakers later after you have decided you want surround sound.
I would prefer that, but after reading some threads, I am afraid that I would end up with different components that would not work together. Or is that possible? That's why I figured the HTIB would be best for us. I dont have "great ears" but I can tell the difference in the sound in our Honda AccordEX and our CivicLX. I also can hear some difference in some of the HTIB displays I've seen at CC. I don't want to spend $1000 on a system, though.

The VCR will look bad on the plasma, but that's just what VCR's do. You can connect it with the composite cable that you probably use now (yellow, red, white connectors). So you need 2 HDMI cables from monoprice.com. Check with comcast to make sure the box you are going to get will have HDMI output. You think they will answer this over the phone?

Otherwise you'll have to use a component cable. Both HDMI and component cables will look about the same displayed on the TV. The only benefit I see from HDMI is you only need one cable for video and audio. That means one cable for the cable box, and one cable for the DVD player. Makes connecting easy. After you get those things working, then worry about junking it up with surround sound wiring .

I see. Disregard the question about how many cables I would need. I don't think I would hook up this VCR to the plasma tv. I can put this old RCA in another room and use the VCR with it.
Thank you for all of your information.
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Quite honestly, it isn't anywhere near as complicated as you are currently thinking. Once you get your panel & read the instructions before beginning (ie the manual) it will be a breeze.

It appears that you and Lee have established some rapport, so I'll butt out with my advice, but trust me, it's not that hard. If you can hook your current tv up to the vcr & cable box, you can hook your new one up.

I would not pay for someone to come out and do it, unless you are going to wall mount it or want the cables built into the wall. Lee should be able to coach you through any sticking points & you'll have the satisfaction/knowledge gained of doing it yourself.
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Quite honestly, it isn't anywhere near as complicated as you are currently thinking. Once you get your panel & read the instructions before beginning (ie the manual) it will be a breeze.

It appears that you and Lee have established some rapport, so I'll butt out with my advice, but trust me, it's not that hard. If you can hook your current tv up to the vcr & cable box, you can hook your new one up.

I would not pay for someone to come out and do it, unless you are going to wall mount it or want the cables built into the wall. Lee should be able to coach you through any sticking points & you'll have the satisfaction/knowledge gained of doing it yourself.

That's just it. We had the cable guy hook up the cable when we ordered the NFLNetwork (and had to get the On-Demand box. That's one of the reasons why I bought the HDTV for Dummies book. I thought it might come in handy when it came time to hook it up.
I was able to hook up the laptop to a data projector so I could show powerpoint presentations to my students, so I know I'm not totally incompetitent. Of course, that's just one cable and I have to call the media specialist to ask her if I use the input or output on the data projector. (Maybe I am incompetitent!! )


Thank you for your input. Anything you (general you) can help me with is greatly appreciated.
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I also wanted to know about some DVD I read about.....running it during the break in period. Does this come with the television or is it something I would have to purchase? That's another reason why I should get a DVD player, right?
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The HDMI cables do come in different lengths, and you should be good with 6' cables. Just get the cheap ones that monoprice.com sells.

Comcast should be able to answer the HDMI output question over the phone.

Oppo is a brand and lists for 149.99 or so for the 970 model. Most DVD's will work fine if you're not real picky and a cheap one will only be about 60 bucks but won't have HDMI so you'll have to get component cables for it (one set) and an audio rca cable (red and white connectors). A lot of us just prefer the Oppo because we think it gives us a better picture.

As far as surround sound goes, my first system was a JVC HTIB system that came with 5 small cube speakers and a small subwoofer and a nice receiver (although the receiver didn't have enough digital audio inputs), and was only 400.00. That was quite a few years ago though. I think you'd be more happy with a setup like that rather than the one with a combined DVD, even if you don't want to go the route of separate receiver and speaker purchase. I'd worry about the sound later though.

Main thing is, have fun with your purchasing.

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The break-in DVD is something you can download here and burn to a DVD. I never did it, and a lot of people just try to vary the type of material they watch for the first 100 hours or so. Mainly you just have to watch full screen stuff with no logos or tickers for the majority of your viewing and you'll be ok.

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(think I) have decided to purchase Panasonic TH42PX60 from a local store. I just feel more comfortable about purchasing local in case something is wrong with the product.

What is your viewing distance? If you are viewing from more than 10', you should really look at the 50". As you have probably read, the PX60 and PX600U are being replaced with new 2007 models in 4-6 weeks, and substantial discounting will result. The 50" TH-50PX60U is already available for under $2000 from the forum sponsors and local retailers, and may hit the $1500 range once the 2007 models are widely available at retail. If you sit 10' or farther from the screen, you will not regret going for the larger size.

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I think I will have to hire someone to come and hook everything up. We have Comcast TV (On-Demand box). I believe we will have to have another box in order to get HD. I was hoping to get the cable guy to hook everything up if he has to come out to bring another box. If not, then I have the name of someone I can hire.

As suggested above, it's probably not a good idea to have the cable person hook it up. As far as cables, you connect your HDTV boxes up with HDMI and the rest up via component. You can order HDMI cables of appropriate length from Monoprice.com. They'll cost you about $15 each.

[Comcast will usually provide one HDMI cable for free, if you request it.]

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So, what type of cables will I need to have on hand so when this person comes out to hook everything up, I can get it done immediately?

If and when you get a HTIB, you run an optical audio cable from each component (cable box, DVD player, etc) directly to the A/V receiver that came with the HTIB. You run the HDMI video cable from each component (cable box, DVD player, etc) directly to your TV. Thus, if you plan on buying a HTIB, you should probably order 2x HDMI, 2x component video cables, and 3x optical cables to make sure you are set. That will probably cost you about $50 total from Monoprice.com.

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So, what type of cables will I need to have on hand so when this person comes out to hook everything up, I can get it done immediately?

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I was thinking at some point getting a HTIB (since it seems easiest for us to figure out what we would need and what will be compatible), but I wasn't thinking of making that purchase until I heard the speakers on the television. (If they are sufficient, then I didn't think we would need to spend the money on the HTIB.) It looks like most of them come with a DVD/receiver. So, should we not purchase a separate DVD, and just go ahead and buy the HTIB when we get the TV?

The most widely recommended HTIB is probably the Onkyo HT-S790, available in either black or silver versions. This is the best sound you can get in one package at under $400. You can get it from Circuit City. Click the previous link for pictures and some suggestions on speaker stands.

A DVD player is not included. For that, I would second the recommendation in the previous post for an Oppo 970, sold by Amazon.com for $149 shipped.

If you order the cables listed above, you're all set.

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Ideally, we would like to be able to tape television programs (usually sports), which is what we use the VCR for. So, I guess that means we should look for a DVD recorder? I want to be able to walk in and tell the salesperson I want this in a DVD player and then have them direct me to the ones which have what I want.

Have you tried a DVR? Before you buy any new recorder, I would request the DVR from Comcast. The DVR replaces the Comcast set-top box you have now. It is not an extra box.

Get the Comcast DVR now and use it for a month to decide if this is something you want, and whether it eliminates your need for another recorder. The DVR will record all SD and HD programming at 100% original quality -- it works with both standard and high-definition televisions, so you can try it now. The DVR will record two different SD or HD channels at the same time, while you watch a third previously recorded program. Try doing that on a VCR!

If after using this DVR for a month you determine that you still need a DVD recorder, then you need to get one from this list. It's important to note that the Comcast DVR will record high-definition, whereas DVD recorders do not. Most people find they do not need a DVD recorder after using the DVR.

In April/May, Comcast will offer an optional Tivo software upgrade for this DVR for a few more dollars per month -- see these pictures to get an idea of what it will look like. If you were ever curious what Miranda kept talking about on Sex in the City, that is it.

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#1 - Yes you would. Most definitely.

For you and your husband, this will not be a step forward . . .it will be a giant leap forward, especially if you enjoy movies and sports at home. I have to assume you have seen HDTV at the store where you were considering the purchase . . . .mesmerizing isn't it? So clear and vivid. That because its 6X better in picture quality (PQ) then your old TV set.

SIDENOTE: I purchased my 50" Plasma from Circuit City. I could have saved over $300 if I purchased it on-line (and I purchase all the time on-line) . . .but this time was different.
It's a BIG box with a BIG glass panel. I figured it was worth it to me to spend that $300 and call it peace of mind money. As it was, I thought about nothing for 3 days (until the set arrived, unboxed and fully operatioanl) sayiing; "Oh please, let nothing go wrong with the shipment." To be in that state of mind for 7 days - I would have had a nervous breakdown. As far as I am concerned . . .money WELL spent. I have a probelm - I make a phone call and CC comes to MY house to pick it up . . .not me going to some shipping facility, but having to rent a truck - car too small . . . hassels galore.

#2A - can be dealt with if you have a young one at home. Sounds like a "from when the kids were little" answer.

#2B - your solution is a good one. Keep the old tv and the old vcr together in another room

#2C - If i gave you the ability to simply "point and click" and you could record any show you wanted including HDTV, this I am sure would interest you. You are used to dealing with what is called a "media based" recording machine. The tape is the media - you put it in and take it out.

Comcast offers for both HDTV and NON-HDTV owners a device called a Motorola 2 Tuner STB DVR Model 3412/16 or 6412/16 - this means:

1. 2 Tuner - allows you to watch one program and at the same time you are recording another . . .watch one recorded show while recording another . . .or watch nothing and record (2) shows on different channels at the same time

2. STB - stands for Set Top Box - an electronic box that gives you the wall to box, then box to TV so that you can have access to your cable programming.

3. DVR - Digital Video Recorder - this is a "medialess" recording system that uses Hard Drives like your laptop to store the TV shows you have recorded. It also allows you to pause live TV for bathroom or snack breaks (5 minutes or less) and continue watching where you left off even though the game is 5 minutes past what you are seeing. Once a commerical comes on therre is a button called "live" that will jump ahead so you skip the commericals and are now once again watching the game live.

Model 3412/16 and 6412/16 - I don't know how your Comcast cable system is operating. They have two systems in the USA:

1. All digital (new)- uses the 34XX box

2. Digital/Analog (new/old)- uses the 64XX box

Whatever you have to use , they will give you the one that fits their system. Both are compatible with any HDTV you decide to buy.

XX12 and XX16. - Comcast has 2 models of DVR's:

XX12 - 120 GB Hard Drive - holds 60 hours of regular TV (called SD - Standard Definition)
OR 12 hours of HDTV - you can combine SD with HDTV

XX16 160 GB Hard Drive holds more than the XX12 by 30%

I have the (3) 6412's - that is all that is offered where I live in So. FL (2-HD) (1-SD)

They will charge you $9.95/mo for the DVR. If you want the HD service that is another $6.95 per month. . .$16.90/mo plus tax. No cash outlay to buy anything and you can cancel at anytime no penalty.

There are approx. 10 to 12 channels in HD like:

NBCHD
CBSHD
FoxHD
ESPNHD
ESPN2HD
GOLF and HOCKey in HD (sometimes)
TNTHD -
Discovery HD Theater - (absolutely amazing!) -100% HD
INHD - movies, shows sports - 100% HD
UHD - Universal Movies in HD - 100% HD
A&EHD
NEOGRPHD - National Geographic channel

You can add the following at an additional cost above the prices I have mentioned above:

HBOHD - and all HBO SD channels
CinemaxHD - and all Cinemax SD channels
StarzHD - and all Starz SD channels
ShowtimeHD - and all Showtime SD channels

You can't just buy HBOHD - if you have HD service you buy HBO and get the (1) HD channel included in the price.

REALITY CHECK . . . .Have i lost you yet? . . ."NO . .Lee is a great helper!" . .OK we proceed

#3B - we will deal with this at a later date. For now lets concentrate on the "TV"

#4D - this relates to #3 - again we WILL revisit this . . not now.

My husband doesn't like to watch many movies.

Does this mean:

a. he doesn't like to go to the movies?

b. he doesn't like to watch movies at home?

Lets stop here so you can give me some feed back and I can see if you are "up to speed"
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There are approx. 10 to 12 channels in HD like:

NBCHD
CBSHD
FoxHD
ESPNHD
ESPN2HD
GOLF and HOCKey in HD (sometimes)
TNTHD -
Discovery HD Theater - (absolutely amazing!) -100% HD
INHD - movies, shows sports - 100% HD
UHD - Universal Movies in HD - 100% HD
A&EHD
NEOGRPHD - National Geographic channel

You can add the following at an additional cost above the prices I have mentioned above:

HBOHD - and all HBO SD channels
CinemaxHD - and all Cinemax SD channels
StarzHD - and all Starz SD channels
ShowtimeHD - and all Showtime SD channels

You can't just buy HBOHD - if you have HD service you buy HBO and get the (1) HD channel included in the price.

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We dont have any movie channels. I have never been interested in them.
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REALITY CHECK . . . .Have i lost you yet? . . ."NO . .Lee is a great helper!" That's right!. .OK we proceed

My husband doesn't like to watch many movies.

Does this mean:

a. he doesn't like to go to the movies?

b. he doesn't like to watch movies at home? Both. Movies don't interest him much.
Lets stop here so you can give me some feed back and I can see if you are "up to speed"

I'm up to speed so far! When I get back into my classroom, I am going to print out all of the replies I am getting for future reference.
For your reference, I'm in NE Florida, home of the Jaguars.
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Fast post - have you purchased the Panasonic yet?
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I don't think she has Lee. In her first post, it says she's decided (she thinks) to purchase it.

It's not just a hobby, it's an obsession...
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Fast post - have you purchased the Panasonic yet?


No. I'm looking to see if the price will drop a little in the next week or so. I would like to get it soon to watch March Madness. Of course if the Gators get knocked out in the first round, I may wait longer. It depends on if youngest son still wants to watch the rest of the tourney.
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OK . . .thought so . . just wanted to check

Both. Movies don't interest him much.

OK so he is a sports fan.

Movies; doesn't mean he won't watch one . . .just that he won't turn one on

NFLNetwork isn't in HD?????[/

That is correct. ONLY the channels I gave you.

For INHD you can go to their website and look at their schedule. They have some sports but for me it it has a ball . . .as opposed to 4 tires . . .not interested . . motor sports only.

I need to ask you a personal question if for any reason you don't want to answer just type PASS

In purchases of HDTV's (or any other expensive toy for that matter) when a couple is married there exists what we men call the WAF - Wife Acceptamce Factor

Here it is the HAF. A bit different . . but easier "men are always easier to figure out then women." Lee's says jokingly.

But it exists and I believe you mentioned it in your orginal post.

Just give me a number bewteen 1 and 20 as to his committment to the purchase of your HDTV . . . . . . and if there are any caveats

PS if you can hook up a PC to a projector, knowledge and experience are on your side.
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Just give me a number bewteen 1 and 20 as to his committment to the purchase of your HDTV . . . . . . and if there are any caveats



He said on a scale from 1 to 20, he doesn't give a rat's a$$.
This purchase doesn't interest him, but if I want it, then OK. He mainly only watches sports on television ( or war documentaries).
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The break-in DVD is something you can download here and burn to a DVD. I never did it, and a lot of people just try to vary the type of material they watch for the first 100 hours or so. Mainly you just have to watch full screen stuff with no logos or tickers for the majority of your viewing and you'll be ok.



That will be pretty hard to do. I usually watch HGTV and I notice it has its logo on the screen right now. The rest of the time, ESPN is on or a basketball/football game. Otherwise we don't watch too much TV. So I would guess the DVD would be important to us to use for 100 hours before we start watching the plasma, eh?
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Well, you could just leave it on DiscoveryHD for 100 hours. They don't leave the logo up very long. You'll probably be watching it more than anything else after you get it anyways.

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OK

He mainly only watches sports on television ( or war documentaries).

Sports are in HD, The Military Channel and the Histaory Channel - SD only.

OK we proceed as though he really doesn't care either way. It's not like you are "dumping" the money in something he can't use.

"That because its 6X better in picture quality (PQ) then your old TV set."

From first post . . . .HDTV lokks almost like you are looking out a window as opposed to just a TV. It does this by increasing the number of "thingies" that make up the picture that you see. They are called ; PIXELS - Picture Elements - little tiny dots. (same with laptop . . as a matter of fact thinlk of it as a BIG laptop displayif your confidence starts to wean.

Our old color TV system was born in 1953 - still here today - will be with us a long long time. It is called NTSC . . .thats all you have to know. Our new TV system is called HDTV and was born around 2000. So we have 2 TV systems working at the same time.

AND THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER.

NTSC TV's have a squarish shape to the screen called 4:3 or 1.33. . .which is called the Aspect Ratio (AR) - Length to width. NTSC uses approx. 300,000 pixels (Hey I know what that is!) to create the image that you see.

HDTV's have a more of a rectangular look and there AR is 1.78 or 16x9. They use 2 million pixels to create the image you see.

OK . got to take a break . . halping out someone else and am bounving back and forth

STUDY . . .there WILL be a test!
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I wil deal with the breakin issue
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Good gosh, we have an AVS super hero

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Not at all . . .just trying to keep continuity in the posts back and forth and everyone keeps jumping in. I am sure you can see that I am trying to help her to understand what she is doing by purchasing an HDTV and the problems she will have by doing so. That is at the point I am at now.
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Ok, I'll quit jumping in...

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STUDY . . .there WILL be a test!


I'm following you so far. I think I can get a passing grade on the test.
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Thanks . .it may help her and others who might be only viewing.

But if you want to get "nasty, down and dirty" come join the thread"

PLASMA NOW or WAIT for 1080P. Read about 2 pages back to get up to speed.

Would love to have you join me there.

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Good gosh, we have an AVS super hero


All y'all are AVS Super Heroes as far as I'm concerned.
I truly appreciate all of the help I have received in this thread.
I have read many threads over the past 3 weeks. Some of my problem was that people use abbreviations that I was unfamiliar with and could not figure out. And some of my problem was that the talk was very technical, and I just could not get my mind to grasp it.
So far, I've been able to understand everything in this thread.
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GREAT! - you have seen the benefits of HDTV if you have seen one at a store.

What store was it?

Now I will get into the problems with owning an HDTV so you know what YOU are getting into before you spend a single penny.

PRIMARY GOAL: - "Is HDTV for US/me?"

SECONDARY GOAL -" I Love My HDTV"
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GREAT! - you have seen the benefits of HDTV if you have seen one at a store.

What store was it?

Now I will get into the problems with owning an HDTV so you know what YOU are getting into before you spend a single penny.

PRIMARY GOAL: - "Is HDTV for US/me?"

SECONDARY GOAL -" I Love My HDTV"


I have looked at Costo Bjs, Circuit City and Best Buy. I really have not watched them for any length of time. But I definitely can see a huge difference from this RCA 25-inch television that we've been watching for the past 17 years.
I am finding that as time passes, especially in the evening, this television is harder and harder to see.
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