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My father-in-law just picked up a 50PX75, was looking for some help so I don't have to read through the manual!

Is there some sort of setting (he's using a 3250HD box that I have set on "pass-through") on the TV that will automatically select an aspect ratio to eliminate the side bars? If I leave it on Just it keeps that aspect ratio for HD which I do not want. I know on my Toshiba I have to set the auto aspect ratio control, but was wondering if there was a similar setting on the Panny.

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Well, I have a pickem up truck (F150), but if the 42PE will fit in our Ford Escape, that would be prefered. It has a inside floor to ceiling clearence of 33".

I just bought the 42 inch yesterday for my mother. It barely fit in our 2005 Honda CRV. I mean it cleared it by an inch. Length was a much bigger issue than height. I think an Escape would work, they seem a tad bigger than the CRVs.

Sorry, I'd measure the box but it's not at my place.
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I just bought the 42 inch yesterday for my mother. It barely fit in our 2005 Honda CRV. I mean it cleared it by an inch. Length was a much bigger issue than height. I think an Escape would work, they seem a tad bigger than the CRVs.

Sorry, I'd measure the box but it's not at my place.

No problem. We rolled the dice and went on over there in the Escape. Bought a 42PE, the box was 30" high, so we were good to go. Now the fun begins. I plan on temporarily setting it up in the living room, to make sure it and the HDMI cable works with the Moto DVR. Then I'll mount it in the Bedroom, on the wall.
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Hi All,

Been enjoying my 50PX77 for a month or so now. My DVD player died.. I am looking for an upconverting DVD player. Not too expensive, something in the $100 range, to tide me over, while the HD/BD war rages..

I tried the Philips 5982, but not satisfied with the upscaled PQ. The OPPOs apparently don't pair well with the Panny's (macroblocking issues).

What are the experiences of the other Panny owners? What player are you using? Are you satisfied?
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I have the Oppo 970HD and have tested it with my 2 pannys, no complaints here. The macro blocking occurs with the 971 & 871, which use a different chipset. Another good upconverting player I'd recommend is the Sony one, but I can't recall the model number.
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I am so undecided as to which Plasma I should be buying that now I have no clue. I started out by looking at the samsung 5054 and then at tthe samsung thread I read that those guys are having a "Judder" issue with their Plasmas. I don't know if even I will see judder, can someone tell me if there is a video on any website out there where they show how a judder looks like, is that something one can live with. For this reason I decided to go with pannys, however I can get the PE models at costco but thats right now only 42" I would like the 50" and right now Costco does not carry them. I don't like the silver panny (last years model). So I am left with either the 75U or the77U. I don't have bright lights coming in my room so I think I can get away with the 75U.

Now is there any reason that I should not go with the 75U. I looked at the panny and the smasung at BB and to me it does not look different. I don't even know what I should be looking to find a difference. Any help?
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I have the Oppo 970HD and have tested it with my 2 pannys, no complaints here. The macro blocking occurs with the 971 & 871, which use a different chipset. Another good upconverting player I'd recommend is the Sony one, but I can't recall the model number.

I believe you are referring to the Sony DVP-NS75H. I just picked it up cheap as an open box item. Right now, I have it connected to a RPTV via component and it looks great. My 50" 77u is being delivered tomorrow afternoon. I'll report how well they work together. I'm curious how it will look with upscaling over HDMI.
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Thanks marichi & chrixx, I'm going to try out the Pioneer DV400 next..

Keep me posted on how the Sony does..
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OPPO OPDV971H : Chipset: MediaTek MT1389FE
Philips DVP 5982 : Chipset: MediaTek MT1389SE

So I re-educated myself on macroblocking/pixellation. I am seeing macroblocking.. on the Philips..

The Pioneer uses the FE chip. So no point even trying then..
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I am so undecided as to which Plasma I should be buying that now I have no clue. I started out by looking at the samsung 5054 and then at tthe samsung thread I read that those guys are having a "Judder" issue with their Plasmas. I don't know if even I will see judder, can someone tell me if there is a video on any website out there where they show how a judder looks like, is that something one can live with. For this reason I decided to go with pannys, however I can get the PE models at costco but thats right now only 42" I would like the 50" and right now Costco does not carry them. I don't like the silver panny (last years model). So I am left with either the 75U or the77U. I don't have bright lights coming in my room so I think I can get away with the 75U.

Now is there any reason that I should not go with the 75U. I looked at the panny and the smasung at BB and to me it does not look different. I don't even know what I should be looking to find a difference. Any help?

I looked at these two among others extensively today with a friend of mine. The 75U is a good set but my buddy wound up with the 77 and I probably will too. It just does such a fantastic job at atenuating reflections that it really is amazing. There's nothing to distract from the picture unless you get at a huge off angle of say about 145*
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Well, my 42PE from Costco was DOA, couldn't get a picture at all! And that was the last one they had boxed up.

So returned it for a refund. Figured with the extra I would have paid for shipping, in ordering one on-line from Costco, went over the CC and picked up a PX77U for not much more (they were on sale).

One thing's for sure, there is a night and day difference in the quality of the pedestal stands between the PX and the PEs (unimportant to me since I will be mounting mine on a wall mount.)
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Owners of the PX75/PX77 do you miss the ability to connect your PC?

I would prefer this feature so I am also considering the equilvalent Samsung.

Is this an overrated feature?

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Does anybody have any idea or have heard any rumor that Panasonic has plan to release larger size models (58" or 65") for the PX77U series? I am almost ready to buy the 58PZ700U
( mostly for the size, not just for the 1080p feature), but found out the anti-reflective coating for the PZ700U isn't effective as the 77U. Based on what is know so far, a 58" model of 77U would be ideal for me.
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I really like the 77U in the 42 and 50 size. Bigger than that and you really have to watch your viewing distance. Too close and SDE will become a factor. If you're close enough to begin differentiating the pixels on the 58 at your proposed viewing distance, you may be better off going with a 1080 set and controling the light other ways.

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My viewing distance is (13-15)'. At that distance, from what I researched and observed at stores, 1080p isn't an issue. On the other hand, unti-glare is a key requirement as this set is going to be in the living room and we want to at least keep some of the window blinds open during day time.
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Does anybody have any idea or have heard any rumor that Panasonic has plan to release larger size models (58" or 65") for the PX77U series? I am almost ready to buy the 58PZ700U ( mostly for the size, not just for the 1080p feature), but found out the anti-reflective coating for the PZ700U isn't effective as the 77U. Based on what is know so far, a 58" model of 77U would be ideal for me.

My viewing distance is (13-15)'. At that distance, from what I researched and observed at stores, 1080p isn't an issue. On the other hand, unti-glare is a key requirement as this set is going to be in the living room and we want to at least keep some of the window blinds open during day time.

There is no mention of a 58" PX77U model in the Panasonic press release so it doesn't look likely, but ya never know.

I will say one thing, the new Anti-Reflective coating on the PX75U/PZ700U series is more effective than the coating they used on my old PX50U and last year's PX60U (i compared the reflections in a PX60 and PX75 side by side).

Also, glare and reflections might not be as big a problem as you think if the conditions are right in the room (location of windows compared to TV, direction the windows face, amount of sunlight getting into the room, color of walls and furniture that may be reflected in the screen, etc etc).

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Randy, thanks for the link, and your comment/pictures. I think I will settle for either 58PZ700U or 58PZ750U.
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Pam-HD,

there are a number of recommendations for settings (including your CNET settings) throughout this entire thread. I compiled all and referenced them as I was setting up my own PX77U and am presently sitting at the following and happy with it....

Mode: Standard
Pic +21
Brightness: +10
Color: 0
Tint: -3
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Normal
Color Mngmt: On
Video NR: On
Mpeg NR: On
Black Level: Light

After trying several, this seems to work best for me. Thanks for the post!
Also, those with concerns about the SD picture, it varies widely from channel to channel. I rate it about on par with my Philips plasma. I rate the HD picture far better than the Philips. My Philips is a 2 year old 42 inch and the new Panny is a 50" 77U.
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I've been trying to find a good deal on a 50PX77U, and have been waiting for the price to come down a little. I've seen big discounts on the 75U (Fry's has a great price right now), but the 77U isn't being discounted to the same degree and they're not as widely available. I recall reading that the MSRP is only $100 higher than the 75U, but street prices are around $500 to $600 higher, which puts it on par with Pio 5070 closeout prices and within $400 of a 5080.

If anyone's seen a killer deal on a 77U (from a reputable dealer), please let me know!
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Anyone know the specs for the mounting holes in the back of the 50PX75U? Looked in the manual and online but nothing is listed and the previous post 238 was just a generalization on the various Vesa dimensions.
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I just read this entire forum, and just a few things to think about, concerns that came up time and time again... speakers should not be a concern when buying either the 75u or the 77u, if you're going to spend 1k+ on a tv, throw in the extra $100-200 for any other set of speakers, even the cheapest out there will blow away the in-panel speakers, i recommend finding yourself a nice out of the box HTIB.... with regards to the 77u's anti-glare screen, for the extra $100-250 you could probably buy a decent set of curtains! not worth the sacrifice of PQ
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Owners of the PX75/PX77 do you miss the ability to connect your PC?

I would prefer this feature so I am also considering the equilvalent Samsung.

Is this an overrated feature?

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I do miss this feature to some degree. My laptop only has VGA out, and I'm not about to buy a DVI->HDMI cable and lug my desktop out to the TV to bother with using it as a PC monitor.

I was kind of wanting to see how Netflix's streaming video feature looked on a real TV (I'm guessing pretty mediocre), but without some kind of computer input on the PX77U this would be a pain for me.

In any case, I kind of wonder if part of the reason they left off a computer input was to help people avoid burn-in. I know plenty of plasmas do have computer inputs and Panasonic claims that their current plasmas are as resistant to burn-in as CRTs, but it still must have influenced their decision. I don't feel like I see too many quality LCD TVs without a computer input of some sort.
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I was kind of wanting to see how Netflix's streaming video feature looked on a real TV (I'm guessing pretty mediocre), but without some kind of computer input on the PX77U this would be a pain for me.

I do this all the time on my 600U, the quality is somewhere between VHS and DVD.
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I've been trying to find a good deal on a 50PX77U, and have been waiting for the price to come down a little. I've seen big discounts on the 75U (Fry's has a great price right now), but the 77U isn't being discounted to the same degree and they're not as widely available. I recall reading that the MSRP is only $100 higher than the 75U, but street prices are around $500 to $600 higher, which puts it on par with Pio 5070 closeout prices and within $400 of a 5080.

If anyone's seen a killer deal on a 77U (from a reputable dealer), please let me know!

CC online has them on sale for the lowest price I have seen. You can have it ordered by the store and have an easy return policy.
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CC online has them on sale for the lowest price I have seen. You can have it ordered by the store and have an easy return policy.


Actually, if your local CC will price match their web site, right now you can get a real good deal on a in stock 77U(as in less then 100 bucks more for the more expensive model!).

That's what we did this last weekend. Got my 77U mounted on a Peerless wall mount from Costco yesterday, looking awesome.
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This is for all of you guys who owns a plasma, do all of you who buy a plasma from a B&M like BB or CC buy he E.W from them. If you do, how has been your experience and if you don't then where do you guys buy the E.W from, who are the good third party E.W sellers?

The prices of the newer panasonics are good at CC right now but $500 for E.W Nooooooo Way. If someone could enlighten me.

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CC just lowered the price of their EWs, closer to BB's. I haven't bought mine yet, so am also interested in a third party recommendation.
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jkhome, not sure where you saw the price, but the price CC is currently listing online for the EW is the same price they've had up for at least the last few weeks. In any case, paying as much as they're asking for an extra four years of warranty doesn't make any sense to me, especially given how much a set like this will likely cost four or five years down the line.
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I've been trying to find a good deal on a 50PX77U, and have been waiting for the price to come down a little. I've seen big discounts on the 75U (Fry's has a great price right now), but the 77U isn't being discounted to the same degree and they're not as widely available. I recall reading that the MSRP is only $100 higher than the 75U, but street prices are around $500 to $600 higher, which puts it on par with Pio 5070 closeout prices and within $400 of a 5080.

If anyone's seen a killer deal on a 77U (from a reputable dealer), please let me know!

Ultimate electronics has it on sale for a pretty good price right now.
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This is for all of you guys who owns a plasma, do all of you who buy a plasma from a B&M like BB or CC buy he E.W from them. If you do, how has been your experience and if you don't then where do you guys buy the E.W from, who are the good third party E.W sellers?

The prices of the newer panasonics are good at CC right now but $500 for E.W Nooooooo Way. If someone could enlighten me.

thanks

I'm a much bigger fan of Ultimate and BBY than CC.

My buddy that picked up his 77U this weekend bought the 4 year ultimate warranty, what I liked most about this warranty, was if you do not use it during the four year period, you get half the cost back. Seems like a great deal to me.
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