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Recommended (which means it's OPTIONAL!!!!) 150 Hour Panel Aging settings for Pioneer 4280/5080/5010FD/6010FD/Elite 950/1150/110FD/150FD (ONLY to be used with Evangelo2's DVD and a DVD player!!! DO NOT USE THESE SETTINGS WITH ANY OTHER DVD, CABLE BOX, SAT BOX, ETC!!!!!!!!!!)

Main Menu:
AV Selection: Standard
Contrast: 50
Brightness: -2
Color: +15
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0


Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema

Film Mode: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture: High
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 3


Color Detail:

Color Temp: High

CTI: Off


Noise Reduction:

DNR: Off
Field NR: Off


Power Save Mode: Off

Orbiter: On
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Updated 3/27/2008

Pioneer 4280/5080 Reference Settings

Main Menu:
AV Selection: User
Contrast: 29
Brightness: 0
Color: -10
Tint: Red 2
Sharpness: -15


Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema

Film Mode: Standard
Text Optimization: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture: Off
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 3


Color Detail:

Color Temp: Low

CTI: Off


Noise Reduction:

3DNR: Off
Field NR: Off


Power Save Mode: Off

Orbiter: On


Note:
  • The color setting has been set to bring the overall color saturation to levels where everything "appears" correct. Feel free to change the color setting to your liking.
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Updated 11/23/2008


Pioneer Elite 950/1150 Reference Settings

Main Menu:
AV Selection: Pure
Contrast: 28
Brightness: 0
Color: +6
Tint: 0
Sharpness: -15


Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema

Film Mode: Standard
Text Optimization: Off

Intelligence: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture: Off
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 2


Color Detail:

Color Temp: Manual
R High -4
G High 0
B High +5
R Low -1
G Low +1
B Low -1

CTI: Off

Color Management
R -1
Y +1
G -4
C -1
B 0
M -1

Color Space: 2


Noise Reduction:

3DNR: Off
Field NR: Off
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off

Power Save Mode: Off

Orbiter: On



Pioneer Elite 950/1150 D55 Settings

Main Menu:
AV Selection: Movie
Contrast: 33
Brightness: -1
Color: +3
Tint: 0
Sharpness: -15


Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema

Film Mode: Standard
Text Optimization: Off

Intelligence: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture: Off
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 3


Color Detail:

Color Temp: Manual
R High -2
G High -2
B High -4
R Low 0
G Low +2
B Low 0

CTI: Off

Color Management
R 0
Y +3
G -3
C -1
B 0
M +1

Color Space: 2


Noise Reduction:

3DNR: Off
Field NR: Off
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off

Power Save Mode: Off

Orbiter: On
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Updated 3/27/2008

Pioneer 5010FD/6010FD Reference Settings

Main Menu:
AV Selection: User
Contrast: 33
Brightness: 0
Color: -10
Tint: Red 2
Sharpness: -15


Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema

Film Mode: Standard
Text Optimization: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture: Off
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 3


Color Detail:

Color Temp: Low

CTI: Off


Noise Reduction:

3DNR: Off
Field NR: Off


Power Save Mode: Off

Orbiter: Mode 2 (Dot by Dot Stretch Mode) Mode 1 (All other Stretch Modes)


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  • The color setting has been set to bring the overall color saturation to levels where everything "appears" correct. Feel free to change the color setting to your liking.
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D-Nice, do you think the 6010/150FD are close to the same size as the current 60" models. I have a Sanus Vmpl3 wall mount that works with the 1540, just wondering if the new models will work with this mount?

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Updated 4/12/2008


Pioneer Elite 110FD/150FD Day Settings

Main Menu:
AV Selection: User
Contrast: 40
Brightness: +1
Color: +6
Tint: R1
Sharpness: -15


Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema

Film Mode: Standard
Text Optimization: Off

Intelligence: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture: Off
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 3


Color Detail:

Color Temp: Manual
R High +3
G High 0
B High -10
R Low 0
G Low 0
B Low 0

CTI: Off

Color Management
R 0
Y +2
G 0
C -1
B +1
M 0

Color Space: 2


Noise Reduction:

3DNR: Off
Field NR: Off
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off

Power Save Mode: Off

Orbiter: Mode 2 (Dot-by-dot) mode 1 (All other stretch modes)



Pioneer Elite 110FD/150FD Reference Settings

Main Menu:
AV Selection: Pure
Contrast: 33
Brightness: 0
Color: +6
Tint: 0
Sharpness: -15


Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema

Film Mode: Standard
Text Optimization: Off

Intelligence: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture: Off
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 2


Color Detail:

Color Temp: Manual
R High -3
G High 0
B High +4
R Low 0
G Low 0
B Low 0

CTI: Off

Color Management
R 0
Y +2
G 0
C -1
B +1
M 0

Color Space: 2


Noise Reduction:

3DNR: Off
Field NR: Off
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off

Power Save Mode: Off

Orbiter: Mode 2 (Dot-by-dot) mode 1 (All other stretch modes)



Pioneer Elite 110FD/150FD D55 Settings

Main Menu:
AV Selection: Movie
Contrast: 40
Brightness: 0
Color: +6
Tint: 0
Sharpness: -15


Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema

Film Mode: Standard
Text Optimization: Off

Intelligence: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture: Off
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 2


Color Detail:

Color Temp: Manual
R High +3
G High 0
B High -3
R Low 0
G Low 0
B Low 0

CTI: Off

Color Management
R 0
Y +2
G 0
C -1
B +1
M 0

Color Space: 2


Noise Reduction:

3DNR: Off
Field NR: Off
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off

Power Save Mode: Off

Orbiter: Mode 2 (Dot-by-dot) mode 1 (All other stretch modes)


Note:
  • Day mode is for daytime viewing (before 4PM) and/or high level of ambient lighting.
  • D55 mode is for old black and white movies that were mastered to this color temperature.
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Great D-Nice and thanks,now the wait
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D-Nice, do you have specs on 6010 yet - or specifically, the width and height of it? I need to create a cardboard mock-up in my campaign to convince roommate this is not too big for our apt.
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from all the pictures we've seen so far, 8th gen looks awfully like the 7th gen series. If there is any variation at all, I would imagine that it would be within an inch or so, either vertically or horizontally, so I would run with the specs from their current 60" panel to form your mockup. cardboard yourself away.

I've got a 50" mockup piece myself. Sometimes I sit and stare at it for a several minutes at a time, just pretending. It's fun. The poor kids of today. They just can't be left to their own imaginative devices like this, with all the structured play dates, organized activities and what not.

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Is the 6010 more power efficient than the previous generation, and does the new tech make the 8g panels any more bullet proof with IR and burn-in? Thanks.
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I've got a 50" mockup piece myself. Sometimes I sit and stare at it for a several minutes at a time, just pretending. It's fun. The poor kids of today. They just can't be left to their own imaginative devices like this, with all the structured play dates, organized activities and what not.

I agree. I have a friend who bought her daughters lots of pricey educational toys. Their favorite? A large cardboard box. And I bet it's better for their education too. Say, if I could talk myself into really enjoying watching that piece of cardboard, I could save a heap of cash.
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D-Nice, do you have specs on 6010 yet - or specifically, the width and height of it? I need to create a cardboard mock-up in my campaign to convince roommate this is not too big for our apt.

Use the 6070 and 1540 as your mockup specs. The 6010 is pretty much the same (give or take a few mm).
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Is the 6010 more power efficient than the previous generation,

Nope. The 60" will actually use more power than the 6070/1540.

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Does the new tech make the 8g panels any more bullet proof with IR and burn-in? Thanks.

The orbiter does
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All,

This thread is a place holder for settings and owner issues. Please use the link below for all non settings/issues question and discussions until the Offical Pioneer 8G Kuro Information/reviews thread is online.

Thanks

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=782695
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new member here.i have a quick question for a gentleman named d-nice.what is "surround sound" with just two speakers in the new pioneer plasma mean?i thought that one must have rear speakers to have the surround sound effects.any way,i am now stationed in southern iraq,will be home soon for couple months before the next deployment.i would like to thank you so very much for "educating" me about the pioneer plasma tv.you have helped me making up my mind.i plan to have the plasma tv in my bedroom,so i will only use the tv speakers.hope i don't bore you to dead.regards.Lt. ngo, US army.
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D-Nice, do you have specs on 6010 yet - or specifically, the width and height of it? I need to create a cardboard mock-up in my campaign to convince roommate this is not too big for our apt.

Maybe you should replace the roommate too!
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Maybe you should replace the roommate too!

Nope, as much as I like plasma tv's, I like her more. And I get her point. She's a yoga teacher, teaches sometimes in our living room. I'm not sure a giant tv makes a room feel yogic.

Okay, that's it for me and off-topic. Hopefully, my next post in this thread will be when I'm an owner.
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Hey, D-Nice, I have a few questions about calibration of the new 8Gs (I'm thinking about going with the PRO-110FD, by the way):

Do you think it's a good idea to get this panel ISF calibrated, or do you think that would be overkill? I'm really interested to try out your settings once you get them published, but I'm just wondering if for an investment like this (and for a new technology, as well) if it would make sense to take it to the next level. FYI, I've also used DVE in the past and am very familiar and comfortable with using that DVD to calibrate a set, although that was only on SD CRTs and never on an HDTV or plasma.

If you do think it's a good idea to go with an ISF tech, should i go through the break-in procedure before I schedule the calibration? Or is that not necessary?

Will ISF techs be prepared to calibrate a brand new panel like the 110FD, or will they need to take a refresher course, get some other kind of special instruction from Pioneer, or bring along any different equipment before they go out to calibrate these panels? Will service menus be so similar to the 7Gs that taking a refresher course to calibrate the 8Gs is unnecessary?

And lastly, can you or anyone else here recommend a good ISF tech in the NYC area? I'm thinking about ordering the panel through Harvey Electronics and seeing if they have techs, but would like to hear if they're any good first.

Thanks for your help!
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[quote=.

I've got a 50" mockup piece myself. Sometimes I sit and stare at it for a several minutes at a time, just pretending. It's fun. The poor kids of today. They just can't be left to their own imaginative devices like this, with all the structured play dates, organized activities and what not. [/QUOTE]


I have decided to exercise some impulse control, and just wait for the 8th Generation cardboard mockup. It will have much deeper imaginary blacks, and it will be a complete imaginary SED mockup killer.

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Oh how I envy you. There's a hard limit to my imagination budget, and so, I must console myself with what I already have now. Please share your cognitive settings upon receiving your new 8th gen mockup. Perhaps I can find a way to adapt them to mine, if I can somehow manage to budget my conceptualizations carefully enough.

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I have decided to exercise some impulse control, and just wait for the 8th Generation cardboard mockup. It will have much deeper imaginary blacks, and it will be a complete imaginary SED mockup killer.

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Greenland, I think its only fair that when you get it, you should be the one to start the thread. I'm really looking forward to your impressions. Please include lots of pictures.
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Just got my 5080 today. If using SA8300 cable what settings should i use through the break in period?
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Just got my 5080 today. If using SA8300 cable what settings should i use through the break in period?

Once you are up and running could you post your opinions/thoughts on the PIO Kuro Owner thread?

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Just got my 5080 today. If using SA8300 cable what settings should i use through the break in period?

I'll have some initial settings this weekend. Until then, turn the contrast down to 33...orbiter on....and power save mode to save2.
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I'll have some initial settings this weekend. Until then, turn the contrast down to 33...orbiter on....and power save mode to save2.


Bump for Bokes. It might be time to make this thread a sticky.

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I tried to calibrate my 5080 using DVE but didn't find it very usefull. Essentially they went on and on about CRTs and then mentioned that if I really wanted to do anything beyond turning the sharpness all the way down (assuming that I was using a CRT) and marginally fideling with the color, brightness (not contrast as that was only for CRTs) I should call an expert who knows what he's doing!!!!
Seems that $30 for two simple patterns and a plastic filter is not a particularly good deal.
Perhaps I'm missing something?
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I have the original DVE. I believe there is a newer version: DVE HD. Which were you using?
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DVE HD. I suppose some of the "problem" may have been that the TV was already very well calibrated in which case there obviously isn't much to do.
As for all the "pro adjustmet" features (black enhancer, DNR, gamma, etc...) there wasn't any help to be found. In many ways it felt as if the DVD, including the HD version, was hopelessly behind the times. PLasma, LCD???? Forget about it.
I'll try it out on my Olevia tonight to see what happens when it's applied to an inferior (although very good value) TV.
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bak_phy,

Are you sure you used the HD DVD side of that disc? The HD DVD side is strictly test patterns and reference video materal.
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Used both sides.
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