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Look, we have detailed threads on this forum and over at HDGURU.net showing the optimal distance for various sizes, 1080p vs. non-1080p, etc. In the final analysis, these things are a GUIDE and it also depends on your personal preferences.

Let me say one thing, and I say this as a guy who believes in 'bigger is better' and wants to up-size my plasma in the future: Alot of the impact on what size you will get not only is based on viewing distance charts but also on WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM CURRENTLY with your existing setup.

If you are watching a 27" CRT from 8-10' and goto a 42" plasma as I did, you're probably going to be very pleased even if the charts say that at that distance (or a bit further) you really can take in a 50". And of course, those people who love the immersion factor -- like the people who sit in the front row at a movie theater -- will always go for the biggest, irrespective of distance.

The point is, take into account what your current setup is now. For years, I had nothing larger than a 19" TV so when I got my 1st 27" back in 1995, it seemed HUGE in my bedroom from 6-7'. The 27" in the living room from 8-10' was a bit 'smallish' but still not bad. But now that my eyes have adapted to viewing a 42" 16:9 display, if I were to put my old 27" back on the stand I'd be looking at all the surrounding stuff in the background, since my eyes are now used to viewing a certain screen sizse. Heck, when the 27" had to be repaired and I put in a 19" I kept 'overviewing' the entire TV and taking in the drapes, cabinet, etc. You'd have thought I had replaced the 42" with a 9" portable !

So, sure, use the viewing charts, and also take into account viewing distance and the fact that what may seem 'big' now might not be as big a few years down the road. But also take into account that if you are torn between a 42" and a 50" and money is a factor, and if you're coming from a 19" or even 27" CRT, unless the distance is alot greater you will be getting a big enough OOOMPH from even the 42" size.

JMHO, thanks for letting me rant.
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Damn... glad you got that off your chest!
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Then what do you propose for someone who has a 65" RPTV HDTV that wants to upgrade to something thinner?

I went from a 65" tv down to a 50" screen and have been quite happy. I can see my fireplace again.
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The final word on size came from one man to another man who heard nature call on the Golden Gate Bridge.

The first man said "That water be cold."

The other man said "Deep, too!"
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I went from 36" CRT to a 65" Panny 1080p Pro.........SIZE MATTERS!
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And that is that!

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Look, we have detailed threads on this forum and over at HDGURU.net showing the optimal distance for various sizes, 1080p vs. non-1080p, etc. In the final analysis, these things are a GUIDE and it also depends on your personal preferences.

Let me say one thing, and I say this as a guy who believes in 'bigger is better' and wants to up-size my plasma in the future: Alot of the impact on what size you will get not only is based on viewing distance charts but also on WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM CURRENTLY with your existing setup.

If you are watching a 27" CRT from 8-10' and goto a 42" plasma as I did, you're probably going to be very pleased even if the charts say that at that distance (or a bit further) you really can take in a 50". And of course, those people who love the immersion factor -- like the people who sit in the front row at a movie theater -- will always go for the biggest, irrespective of distance.

The point is, take into account what your current setup is now. For years, I had nothing larger than a 19" TV so when I got my 1st 27" back in 1995, it seemed HUGE in my bedroom from 6-7'. The 27" in the living room from 8-10' was a bit 'smallish' but still not bad. But now that my eyes have adapted to viewing a 42" 16:9 display, if I were to put my old 27" back on the stand I'd be looking at all the surrounding stuff in the background, since my eyes are now used to viewing a certain screen sizse. Heck, when the 27" had to be repaired and I put in a 19" I kept 'overviewing' the entire TV and taking in the drapes, cabinet, etc. You'd have thought I had replaced the 42" with a 9" portable !

So, sure, use the viewing charts, and also take into account viewing distance and the fact that what may seem 'big' now might not be as big a few years down the road. But also take into account that if you are torn between a 42" and a 50" and money is a factor, and if you're coming from a 19" or even 27" CRT, unless the distance is alot greater you will be getting a big enough OOOMPH from even the 42" size.

JMHO, thanks for letting me rant.

It didn't answer my question in the 58 - 60" thread.
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This reminds me when the checkout girl at my local supermarket tells me, "Have a good one" and I always respomd:

"I have a good one - I want a bigger one!"
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Choosing the size of your next display really depends mostly on the size you are coming from and the dimensions and seating distance in your viewing room. I prefer about 12 Ft and find that 60" to 65" fits my taste. A friend has a 73" Mits and from 12 Ft I get used to it in 30 minutes or so, but I'm not sure I would want to live with it. Also, a flat panel vs. a microdisplay will give you about 2 extra Ft. to play with.
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Agreed. Recently went from a 27" Sony Wega CRT to a 42" Vizio Plasma and have been super pleased with the size jump (set 9 feet or so away).

So what you're coming from definitely matters. 50" would surely be even nicer, but it was just out of my price range as I wanted to stay under $1000.
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So what about going from a 36crt to a 42 plasma at 8ft?or 50
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So what about going from a 36crt to a 42 plasma at 8ft?or 50

Go 50" or larger. I view 57" from 8.5' and it's a piece of cake in dot-by-dot mode and a world of difference for HT immersion and I could go 65". Went from a 36" CRT to a 45" LCD and it became smallish and with patience I waited until the 57" dropped and go tit and when the price of the 65" comes down to that level I'll get it. The 42" is not going to dramatic other than 16:9 is a step up and now they are so much cheaper I feel why bother with a 42" - SIZE does matter.

However, feed the beast HD or don't bother - don't go cheap on the source content - budget for it. I have both HD DVD and BD with Netflix and HD STB and so it enables going larger and getting more of that HT feel and in fact it's better than the theater to be honest.

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So what about going from a 36crt to a 42 plasma at 8ft?or 50

Not much of an increase, since the 42" 16:9 display is about equal in width to a 32-33" CRT with a 4:3 ratio.

It is bigger but not appreciably.
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Not much of an increase, since the 42" 16:9 display is about equal in width to a 32-33" CRT with a 4:3 ratio.

It is bigger but not appreciably.


True for 4:3 content, but it is a decent difference for wide screen content.

According to the CNET Calculator , 16x9 letter boxed on a 36" set amounts to 33" diagonal. So you're gaining 9 inches there.

For 4:3 content, a 42" widescreen set gives you 34" so you lose to inches there.

By comparison a 40" gives you 41" for 4:3 content, so you're gaining 5" there in addition to gaining 17" for 16x9 content, so that's clearly a nicer gain if you have the space and budget for it.

Personally, most of the TV I watch is available in 16x9 on HD channels and I watch a ton of DVDs, so the 4:3 issue wasn't a big factor when I was making my size decision.
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The Final Word On SIZE !!!!

BIGGER (is better)
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Go as big as you can afford. I have never heard of anyone complaining that the new TV is too big, or that they wish they got the smaller size.
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Especially once shrinkage occurs.
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