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Looks like the New LG plasmas beat out the new Pioneer's for being the first 1080p/24hz out



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Thnk you for this, I had heard through the Company I am working with(they are installing a new home entertainment package for us), that a new LG was coming out "early" and this must be it. still looking for pricing on it, but if it's much like the 60PY3D, then it should be feature stocked and a nice set for us. Current oprtions are the 50 inch of this, the 5084 Samsung or the Elite FD Pioneer.

More info on this set would be much appreciated. Especially before monday
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what's with the 3000:1 contrast ratio, can't wait to see this one in a store.
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And again LG is trying to win "the most ugly design of the year" award.

Even if the image is like reality, i don't want that piece of crap in my lr.
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And again LG is trying to win "the most ugly design of the year" award.

Even if the image is like reality, i don't want that piece of crap in my lr.

Do you mind sharing why you dislike the design so much? For what it's worth, I don't think "IF Design Awards" are given out to the ugliest designs.

I would want to see it in person, but it looks OK to me.
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cybertec

Never really understood contrast ratio differences
What does a high 3000:1 contrast ratio buy you compared to a 1000:1 ?

Also heres the email address if you have any tech questions

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I emailed and got very quick and knowable responses from this above addy


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what's with the 3000:1 contrast ratio, can't wait to see this one in a store.

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cybertec

Never really understood contrast ratio differences
What does a high 3000:1 contrast ratio buy you compared to a 1000:1 ?

Also heres the email address if you have any tech questions

Neil

I emailed and got very quick and knowable responses from this above addy

contrast means brightness, the higher the contrast the sharper more contrast the image becomes.
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I saw this unit in Magnolia/Best Buy yesterday next to the Pioneer Elite and the picture quality was better. I couldn't believe it! Visually, this TV was far superior to all others that I saw in this category at Magnolia. I think I am going to get it. Any thoughts from ANYONE?????
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They look nice to me also to bad no PIP


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I saw this unit in Magnolia/Best Buy yesterday next to the Pioneer Elite and the picture quality was better. I couldn't believe it! Visually, this TV was far superior to all others that I saw in this category at Magnolia. I think I am going to get it. Any thoughts from ANYONE?????

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I saw this unit in Magnolia/Best Buy yesterday next to the Pioneer Elite and the picture quality was better. I couldn't believe it! Visually, this TV was far superior to all others that I saw in this category at Magnolia. I think I am going to get it. Any thoughts from ANYONE?????

I am far from a videophile, but I would encourage you to do a bunch of research before picking this one up. I do know that historically, LG's have had a terrible repair record. There are plenty of accounts here of people who bought LG plasmas and ended up regretting it. When I talk to salespeople, they tell me this is one of the brands that is most often returned. That doesn't mean this one isn't better than previous models - but I'd research carefully before buying. Make sure if you're comparing sets in stores, that you get the chance to set each up to your liking (suggested settings can be found in many threads on this forum) and know what kind of source material you're looking at. Also, make sure you can see it in an environment similar to how you'll watch (i.e. a darkened room) Personally, I haven't seen anything yet that beats this year's Pioneers. That's what I'll be buying soon. Best of luck to you.
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Any info on the 60PY3D, it looked pretty good at best buy.
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search some more there was a member who got one installed recently and he said it looked horrible on sd content.

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That was me. SD does look horrible on this set, but I am comparing it to my previous set which was a 50" Elite plasma. PY3D is 10" bigger and the price is no doubt substantially less than the upcoming 1080p 60" Elite, so it helps to keep it in perspective...
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I am far from a videophile, but I would encourage you to do a bunch of research before picking this one up. I do know that historically, LG's have had a terrible repair record. There are plenty of accounts here of people who bought LG plasmas and ended up regretting it. When I talk to salespeople, they tell me this is one of the brands that is most often returned. That doesn't mean this one isn't better than previous models - but I'd research carefully before buying. Make sure if you're comparing sets in stores, that you get the chance to set each up to your liking (suggested settings can be found in many threads on this forum) and know what kind of source material you're looking at. Also, make sure you can see it in an environment similar to how you'll watch (i.e. a darkened room) Personally, I haven't seen anything yet that beats this year's Pioneers. That's what I'll be buying soon. Best of luck to you.


Listen to this person. I own an LG 50PC5D Plasma that has needed multiple -- as in more than 4 -- repair visits. I had two LG LCD's that were replaced before it due to clouding (also requiring multiple repair visits), and they let me try their Plasma out. LG Plasmas are even worse. They just replaced the entire internal plasma screen, which included most of the electronics inside, and it STILL has the same issues as before (buzzing, can't do HDMI well, problems with PS3 compatibility). Worse, I now get blue sparkles trailing edges of images for about the first minute when I turn the TV on, and there is a small blemish in the glass.

Run far, far away.

I like LG phones, but I wouldn't buy an LG TV again -- even for my worst enemy.

Consider yourself warned.

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I saw this unit in Magnolia/Best Buy yesterday next to the Pioneer Elite and the picture quality was better. I couldn't believe it! Visually, this TV was far superior to all others that I saw in this category at Magnolia. I think I am going to get it. Any thoughts from ANYONE?????

Yes, I have a few:

Don't judge a TV based on what you see in BB, CC or even Magnolia. Find a polite salesmen and ask him or her for the remote so you can take each set out of "torch" mode and set it to user or cinema or movie mode (or whatever looks best). Then make some adjustments to the color, sharpness, brightness and contrast so that it looks good to your eye. Scroll through the features, get an idea of what they do and adjust so the picture looks even better to your eye. Then, and only then, should you compare the displays. Comparing TV sets on "torch" mode is useless.

Also, what Elite were you comparing to? If it was the 8th Generation, I will head to my local Magnolia this weekend to compare for myself (you just gave me something to do on Saturday, skeptical as I may be ), because right now as it stands, nothing found at Magnolia touches the 8th Generation Pioneers.

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I saw this unit in Magnolia/Best Buy yesterday next to the Pioneer Elite and the picture quality was better. I couldn't believe it! Visually, this TV was far superior to all others that I saw in this category at Magnolia. I think I am going to get it. Any thoughts from ANYONE?????

exactly which mag/bb did you see these at?

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I saw an ISF-calibrated 60PY3D at the Magnolia here in Tampa, and the picture was utterly breathtaking. If I had an extra $5K to spend, I would have bought one of those sets right then, no doubt...it was THAT good!
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I saw this unit in Magnolia/Best Buy yesterday next to the Pioneer Elite and the picture quality was better. I couldn't believe it! Visually, this TV was far superior to all others that I saw in this category at Magnolia. I think I am going to get it. Any thoughts from ANYONE?????

The ISF-calibrated 60PY3D I saw at Magnolia here in Tampa COMPLETELY BLEW AWAY every other set in the store. I only wish I had the $$$ for one...maybe when they come down in price a bit.
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^ Thats probably because it was ISF calibrated. It's an apples to oranges comparison (comparing ISF cal to non-ISF cal is just unfair).

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^ Thats probably because it was ISF calibrated. It's an apples to oranges comparison (comparing ISF cal to non-ISF cal is just unfair).

True...but it looked SWEEEEET!
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^ I don't doubt it, but I will certainly check that out for myself. They still don't have it at the Magnolia near me...oh well.

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Just saw this last night. Looked beautiful. Does anyone have any new input on this set compared to the item below:

Hitachi 50v701

Any info is greatly appreciated. My 12 yr old 50 Hitachi Ultravision finally died 2 nights ago

thanks in advance
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contrast means brightness, the higher the contrast the sharper more contrast the image becomes.

Where did you get that incorrect info from????

Anyhow, rather than me explaining it. I will just post a link to Wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrast_ratio



Please also know, that there is a difference between (bogus) Dynamic contrast, and Static contrast.

Generaly Dynamic contrast, although may look good to the average consumer, because of the percieved brightness difference between black to white.
It is actually killing the true contrast of an image. By blowing out the blacks in particular, but as well the whites.
And will lose tons of detail in most sets, when in this mode.
Oh, sorry I guess I was rambling.

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3,000:1 contrast ratio? The new Samsungs are rated 15,000:1. Then again I have a set of FRS two way radios that are rated at 18 miles when in reality they're lucky to get 6 blocks so who knows how much truth there is to any manufacturer's specs.
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3,000:1 contrast ratio? The new Samsungs are rated 15,000:1. Then again I have a set of FRS two way radios that are rated at 18 miles when in reality they're lucky to get 6 blocks so who knows how much truth there is to any manufacturer's specs.

There is no COMMONLY used contrast measurement technique among manufacturers. Spec'd contrast ratios are useless when comparing brand to brand.
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I too am an LG owner, 50PC5D to be exact, and I will not buy another LG. It's a good set for the price I paid but I should not have skimped.
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Listen to this person. I own an LG 50PC5D Plasma that has needed multiple -- as in more than 4 -- repair visits. I had two LG LCD's that were replaced before it due to clouding (also requiring multiple repair visits), and they let me try their Plasma out. LG Plasmas are even worse. They just replaced the entire internal plasma screen, which included most of the electronics inside, and it STILL has the same issues as before (buzzing, can't do HDMI well, problems with PS3 compatibility). Worse, I now get blue sparkles trailing edges of images for about the first minute when I turn the TV on, and there is a small blemish in the glass.

Run far, far away.

I like LG phones, but I wouldn't buy an LG TV again -- even for my worst enemy.

Consider yourself warned.

To tell you the truth, more people purchase LG Plasma's than those other over priced brands - as more people have them then refectively it would seem that more people have faults - not true! Realisticaly a happy customer tells 2 people & an unhappy customer tells 7 people so you do the math & then make your comment!.
I have the LG 50PY3D and it is far superior to most of the 50's out there - hook up an upscaling DVD player or Blueray & be amazed or dream on!
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would commenting on the fact that this thread is over 3 months old, and the fact that this "mr vray" character has apparently created an account to save face be against any forum rules?
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