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post #1 of 37 Old 08-23-2007, 08:16 AM - Thread Starter
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I am planning on picking up a Panny Plasma from the store and don't have a pick up truck.

I DO have room in my Vehilce to transport it if I lay the box down flat.

I seem to remember reading something about NOT laying a Plasma TV down for some reason.

Or is that only don't lay it on it's FACE ? Would it's back be OK ?

Why not? What would happen? It would be laying down for about 30 minutes.

Would I be safe in doing this for this short period of time?

Thanks, Tim.
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Previous threads on the same subject indicate that you should never do so, because the glass is very fragile, and is very easy to break when lying flat. If you hit a pothole or have to make a sudden stop, the glass may very well shatter.

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You would have to be insane to transport a plasma horizontally by car/SUV. It may likely void your warranty as well if damaged during transit.

This thread may be of interest...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=890792
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If you notice that all glass moving trucks, such as for windows, car windows, doors, etc line up all the glass standing up. The reason is up and down vibrations from driving distributed across horizontal class will cause damage much easier because of the greater surface area.

It's okay to lay it down if you aren't transporting it, but I would recommend against it if you plan to drive it around.

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Everything I have read says shipping large sheets of glass laying flat = BAD.

However, how does everyone attach their wall mounts? Do you have someone hold the set up or do you go ahead and lay it flat?

Samsung Plasma TV FAQ - read it, learn it, live it.
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Everything I have read says shipping large sheets of glass laying flat = BAD.

However, how does everyone attach their wall mounts? Do you have someone hold the set up or do you go ahead and lay it flat?

You can lay a pdp flat. Pioneer 5080HD says to lay their plasma flat to remove speaker.

It's just that you can't transport a plasma flat! See russwong's comments above for reasoning. If you hit a bump, pothole, or slam on your brakes... then you are stressing the glass of a horizontal plasma in a highly risky way!
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OK, from the manual:

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Warning
...Two or more people should carry the TV. Never lay the TV on the floor because of possible damage to the screen. Always store the TV upright.


Samsung Plasma TV FAQ - read it, learn it, live it.
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It can be laid flat other than transport, but it is a handle w/ care using (2) people scenario.

Couple of excerpts from Pioneer Pro1150HD/ 950 HD manual:

When using the hang on wall unit, first lay the plasma
display on top of a soft sheet, etc., remove the stand, then
attach the speaker.

Detaching the stand
1 With the plasma display lying flat, loosen and remove
the two installation bolts (1) and (2) using a
screwdriver.
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As far as I know neither Best Buy or Circuit City will allow you to pick up a plasma tv unless it can be transported upright.
While waiting to pick up my daughter and son-in-law's 42" plasma at Circuit City I watched a very excited woman waiting to pick up her new 50" Panny plasma. You can imagine the look of disappointment on her face when they were unable to load it in her Tahoe because it wouldn't go in standing up.
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Yeah, the Sammy manual stating not to lay it flat could be a case of covering their fanny's. Like the plastic bags that warn you not insert your head because of suffocation.

Samsung Plasma TV FAQ - read it, learn it, live it.
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Yeah, the Sammy manual stating not to lay it flat could be a case of covering their fanny's. Like the plastic bags that warn you not insert your head because of suffocation.

Funny. It's truly hard to make things idiot-proof.
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Just rent a Uhaul van. I don't know how far you are from the store, but was about 10 miles. I think it ended up costing me like 35 bucks for the van. A small price to pay to get my 2-3k plasma home safe.

The manuals say to lay it flat to remove the speaker because you're not knocking it around. You're spending big bucks on a TV, don't skimp on getting it home.
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If it is a new purchase at a local store, how much could a home delivery actually cost. Why be penny wise and pound foolish.

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If you lay a plasma down it will go to sleep,,,,,,,, sorry, could'nt resist.

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The last time I laid my plasma down on the floor of my living room, I had to bolt my Lazy-Boy recliner to the ceiling just to watch it! Oh and by all means do not forget to add a seat belt to the recliner for your safety. I do think the picture looked sharper and more brilliant but that could have just been the blood rushing to my head. Your viewing pleasure and mileage may vary. Pleasant watching!!!!
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member since 2003 and this is your first post You waited a while for that one

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member since 2003 and this is your first post You waited a while for that one

Maybe it took that long for someone to realize he was still strapped to the recliner on the ceiling...

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The associate from Best Buy helped me load my 60" PLASMA into the back of my pick-up face UP. He said it would be fine as long as I didnt do any off roading on the way home. Also, in the instruction manual it told me to lay my tv face face down to install the base. I have heard all the rumors about cracked glass, and the color messing up if you lay them down flat, but I think as long as you use a little common sense you should be just fine. Or you could always Opt to have it delivered..............................
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The Panasonic Carton has instructions on it, that the Box should never be transported flat. They even have a drawing of how it should be transported standing up, and have a drawing of it lying flat with a big X across it.

Just because someone tells an anecdotal tale of having gotten away with doing so, does not mean that everyone will.

Some people also survive having gotten on the highway going against traffic. That does not mean that it is something anyone else should feel free to do the same thing.

If you break it when hauling it home, it is not covered by the warranty, and you will eat the cost of it. Is it worth taking rush a risk, instead of paying to have it delivered or renting a small vehicle to transport it in the manner that the Manufacturer requires?smile.gif
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sounds like a lot of (understandable, since these things are expensive) worrying

I do custom picture framing...we transport glassed pieces and mirrors horizontally all the time, not once have we had a break

i'd say that the glass used on the screen of a plasma is a lot more break resistant than regular framing glass

as long as the plasma is relatively secure and not bouncing around banging into things you should be fine


glass companies transport material vertically because you can move more in an upright position stacked together than if it was laying flat and because it reduces the strain on the glass when you pick it up and set it down
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Again. The manufacturer instructs that it not be transported lying flat. They know best which is the correct way to keep it from shattering, and once a person signs for receipt of the unit, if it shatters on the way home, they will own it.
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I agree with everything Greenland said and of coarse the manufacturer will advise you not to transport your tv flat. However, if done with common sense it can be done was my point. I think the '' driving the wrong way in traffic" thing was a little bit much . Of coarse you should transport your tv as the manufacturer suggest, but if you cannot use common sense.
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Again. The manufacturer instructs that it not be transported lying flat. They know best which is the correct way to keep it from shattering, and once a person signs for receipt of the unit, if it shatters on the way home, they will own it.

and milk companies put expiration dates on their cartons, etc.

it's called CYA, they have to account for people that would just grab the box, toss it in the back of a pickup and take off

real world experience (12 yrs.) of transporting numerous times with more fragile materials tells me that if you are careful there are no issues


all that said, if you can transport it vertically, that's what I'd do
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Lol, yet again.....I agree with you. Merely stated that it could be done if it was your only option if done carefully. YOUR RIGHT, it will void your warranty, etc. Where does milk fit into this???! Lol
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And what happens if you are driving home as carefully as you can, but some other driver cuts you off, and you are forced to slam on the brakes. You cannot control how others are driving, etc.

Why spend a sizable amount of money on the product, and then go completely cheap on getting it to the house safely?.

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You obviously didn't catch the part that said I agreed with you, twice. I guess you simply like to argue because you keep saying the same things over and over. And throw in off the wall stuff that has nothing to do w/ anything. For example if the tree fell in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, did it make a sound? Exactly my point on why you should never lay a TV down flat to transport ....
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What if you put the TV in a van just like the manufacturer suggest and you get rear ended and your van blows up? Exactly !
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