Originally Posted by DPowers
No, I don't think the world is as simple "as that". I wish I was playing corporate buzzword bingo. I would have won with your very first line.
You missed my point. I suggested that Pioneer put out an additional line of products in addition to the Kuros that could compete at the same level (price wise) as the Panisonics. There is much more than black level and in turn CR that goes into making a Kuro more expensive. There is no reason Pioneer should drop the pricing on all of their products if people are willing to buy them. They are very high quality products. No one is disputing that.
If there were currently a Pioneer product that produced a similar CR (it is twice that of closest display) and dialed back the connections, picture adjustments (there are quite a few) and was able to price it equally to or marginally more than it's Panisonic counterpart I beleive it would become more competative in it's market segment.
You were correct. We do live in a "dynamic marketplace". My making a suggestion as to how a company might possibly gain ground on a competitor by making some marketing changes is, to it's core, the definition of being "dynamic".
So, by your rationale, Pioneer would do well by staying the course? There is more to inovation than simply creating new technology.
This is exactly what pio has done with the 5080. Its as close as they are willing to to go price wise to the pannie and it has the cr you are looking for.
The 5080 is their "loss leader" as it were.
I dont want to say your argument is simple, but you are ignoring a whole slew of factors. Its not as simple as dropping their price or coming out with a new line to compete. You are talking about a complete reworking of their mfg capacity, business model, supply chain, marketing model etc etc. (make sure you pickup a new bingo card btw
Can you imagine with the price drop, all pio plasmas will be sold out everywhere.
For whatever reason, pio has refused to play the volume game because either they cannot or will not. In order to do so, they would have to invest a sh1tload of money to do it, they can't do it overnight.
Not to mention the risk from pannie, since as soon as pio invests to do this, pannie would probably follow with a price drop of their own, causing more of these posts to show up here wondering why pio isnt dropping their prices again or coming up with another line etc etc.
Pio can't/won't play pannies game. Whether you like it or not, pannie is better at that game, capacity wise, retailer wise, marketing wise. If pio plays it, they would probably lose.
Look I want pio to play the price/volume game, I would love to get another kuro for the bedroom w/o a 2nd mortgage. I hate elitist companies (no pun intended) like apple, bmw etc. But I can see why these companies do what they do.
Whether it'll work with pioneer in the future, I really dont know.
What is certain is that for pio to do what you (and I) want them to do is a much bigger risk and much more complicated than whats been posted here.