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guys there is simply no way that the 42Z800U will MSRP for $2200....no way! Dont worry bout it. That price is not correct


They wont sell any at that price

They'll be closer to 1599
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It's already been established long ago that Pioneer is not going to make anymore 42" plasmas. When the 4280s are gone, that's the end of the road for the 42" size. Pity. No more 720p models either. And i was so hoping for a PDP-4220HD .


Well ya never know Randy .... maybe the rumors about a 44" Pio (4420) could become reality Actually, it wouldn't surprise me. I know Pio will be introducing an LCD (at some point) to fill that 37-40" market. But I can still see them having something in that mid 40" range in a plasma display.

Not all folks, myself included, consider a 50" panel as the perfect entry size. In many viewing environments it's just too damn big. So what .... they're going to just concede this entire market (mid 40s plasma) to the likes of Panny and Sammy ?? And BTW, no, i'm not interested in buying into their LCD at that size either. The 'rumored' 44 makes perfect sense. First you can bring a replacement out for the old 42 and justify the price increase over last years model by increasing the size to 44 AND it being 1080p. Second, you can keep the number of production models down a little (especially compaired to Panasonic) by ofereing only (one) size set in the 40-49" range.

Strictly a guess at this point but, I wouldn't be surprised to see a 44" model with a sugg retail somewhere around 2800.00-3000.00. Just speculation of course .... or perhaps wishfull thinking
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guys there is simply no way that the 42Z800U will MSRP for $2200....no way! Dont worry bout it. That price is not correct


They wont sell any at that price

They'll be closer to 1599

Considering that the 42PZ85 is already listed at $1800 MSRP on the Panasonic Website, $2200 is certainly closer to the initial PZ800 MSRP than $1599.

What happens a month or 2 down the road remains to be seen...
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I was just checking panasonic's employee purchase program website, which I am eligible for from being a member of the Texas State Bar, and both the 42pz80u and 42pz85u are being offered for less than $1300 (well, actually the 85u is $30 more, but the 80u is under...still a damn good price for both).

I believe this should be around the street price on them as panasonic's epp has been pretty close to street price in the past. And no, I don't think you will have to wait "for a long time" to see these prices on the street.

Don't h8 - Fellow traveller here. .. I was about to take advantage of the same program for the 750 when the 850s were announced and decided to wait. The price was nearly identical to the street price - good deal all the way around. I noticed they discontinued the 750 on that program - hoping that the 850 is offered through them at launch - I'll snap that puppy up in a heartbeat. Any insight here? Will the 800 series be offered soon?
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I'm confused. I see no prices on the 800 series on Panasonic's website. Amazon pricing matches up with Pansonic's for the 80 and 85 series tvs. I think you are confusing the 50PZ80 for the 50PZ800. If the 50PZ800 has a SRP of $2499, I think everyone would be tickled pink. But that is not the case, sadly. Panasonic is asking that for their entry level 1080p set.

Thanks for correcting me...so whats the difference between the 2..the one I thought everyone was talking about (80 or 85 Series) and the one thats suppost to be coming out over $3,000 (800)

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Thanks for correcting me...so whats the difference between the 2..the one I thought everyone was talking about (80 or 85 Series) and the one thats suppost to be coming out over $3,000 (800)

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guys there is simply no way that the 42Z800U will MSRP for $2200....no way! Dont worry bout it. That price is not correct


They wont sell any at that price

They'll be closer to 1599

Dude, no offense, but aren't you the one with the inside contact that said that Panasonic's pricing would "shock the HD TV buying world?"

The street prices will be much lower than MSRP but the Amazon prices seem to be about where Panasonic has been pricing the whole line.
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Dude, no offense, but aren't you the one with the inside contact that said that Panasonic's pricing would "shock the HD TV buying world?"

The street prices will be much lower than MSRP but the Amazon prices seem to be about where Panasonic has been pricing the whole line.


I believe that was D-Nice with the inside information.
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I dont have dates...but a friend of mine that works near me in Secaucus, NJ ( Panasonic's US headquarters) says the pricing on the new 2008 models should shock the world!....well at least shock the HD TV buying world. He couldnt give me any pricing but hinted very heavily at the fact that I should just wait for the 2008 line because the pricing should be quite similar to what your finding the 2007 line now for!...WOW! Im hoping so!

MSRP aren't that great. I hope the street prices are much lower than MSRP and I hope they drop much sooner than 3-4 months out......I for one can't wait that long.....

I want the 50" but I find the 46pz85u priced well at 2199 ($500 under the 50" which i think is overpriced) and in stores i see the diff between 42 and 50 as significant but not so much between 46 and 50 so if the 46 has an SRP around 1900 to 2000 I may just go for that one.....that's assuming the 85u are much better than the 700u, else i'll try to find a deal on a 50pz700u....
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I believe that was D-Nice with the inside information.

I was using an exact quote...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post13031110
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I was using an exact quote...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post13031110

You are correct sir. My apologies.
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guys there is simply no way that the 42Z800U will MSRP for $2200....no way! Dont worry bout it. That price is not correct. They wont sell any at that price

That price looks correct to me. Sure it's only a few hundred less than last year's MSRP, but i didn't expect the huge $500 MSRP drops like we had with the debut of the 2007 models and the 2006 models before them since eventually the MSRP prices have to bottom out, and i think we've reached that point this year. It's not like they can keep dropping the MSRP by $500 with each successive model year otherwise they'd be giving them away for free in four more years

Historically Panasonics do sell for MSRP at the CCs and BBs when they first come out, then a month or so later we start to see street prices drop and sales begin etc. My 42PX50U was still selling all over town for it's original $3,499 MSRP two months after it debuted, then when it went on sale for $3,199 i finally bought it. Then a few months after i bought mine, Panasonic dropped the MSRP by $500 which really pissed me off (they always seem to screw the early adopters)

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They'll be closer to 1599

Maybe the street price will get that low several months after release, but i can't see MSRP being that low now or even 6 months from now if Panasonic drops the MSRP like they did that one time for the PZ700U.

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Has everyone in this thread suddenly forgotten what MSRP means? Why the hell are you guys getting upset over these MSRPs when they're clearly far, far less than comparable sets released just a year ago. Obviously the street prices will be dramatically less once the sets are actually released. So stop crying like a bunch of little girls because the MSRPs are more than the allowance your parents give you will afford.
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BB has the 42PX80u 1199.99 Looks to be instock now...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....c=abcat0100000

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same price as listed on Panny Website of you want to buy Direct..

So if thats coming out at the same price..guess you can assume the others will too
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It's on BB web but not available anywhere for pick up. Tried zips from around the good old USA. Didn't try delivery though.
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It's on BB web but not available anywhere for pick up. Tried zips from around the good old USA. Didn't try delivery though.

No pickup anywhere near me either, but the first available delivery date is Tuesday, February 26 to my 90245 zip code.

And as i posted earlier, BB's price is MSRP

I wonder if Panasonic had to cut corners on quality to get the MSRP so low. My 2003 model 32" Panasonic HD Tube TV MSRP'd for that price !

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I know most of you on here are plasma fans. But as someone who is in the process of buying his first HD TV..why should I go plasma over LCD.

Everything I read says Plasma Best picture..When I got o Circuit/Best or sears for some reason the LCD has a better picture..maybe it because they have a brighter picture...or ??? what am I missing..

I been looking for 3 or 4 months.and have flipped flopped back and forth between the 2..

I was close to buying the 52" Sony W300 series one..until I heard about the new Pannys' coming out and wanted to check them out before I made my choice

new TV is going in my Rec Room Basement..only light is an over head light between where my Tube TV is now and where our main seating will be..

12 to 13' Feet away with the rest of the chair in the basement between back seats and TV..

Will be used mostly for Sports and TV/DVD's. no kids at home so at this time no Gaming on computer..

I am looking 50" plasma or probably 52" LCD...I am kicking myself for not pulling the trigger when after the holidays they had the Panny/Blue Ray combination special..

So any help would be appreciated..like I said..what I read says Plasma..but my Eyes says LCD..

all I am looking for is best picture to watch Sports/TV/Movies...
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I know most of you on here are plasma fans. But as someone who is in the process of buying his first HD TV..why should I go plasma over LCD....

This isn't the thread for that question - here's a good thread for your Plasma over LCD question:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=767932

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Feb 26 delivery date for my zip 48101

Maybe tomorrow there will be another panny added to new arrivals

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Sorry.. I was just trying to get some information so I can make the best choice for my needs

thanks for the link.

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Sorry.. I was just trying to get some information so I can make the best choice for my needs. thanks for the link. marty

No worries, but i will say that LCDs do look more attractive in the stores at first because they're bright and have a lot of "pop", but if you really compare the image to a plasma the LCDs look un-natural and cartoonish, plus they have all those other issues. I spent a lot of time with a few friends' Sony LCD TVs and i cannot get them to look as good as my plasmas.

For your situation, i'd definitely get a plasma, like the current Panny TH-50PX75U or the soon-to-be-released TH-50PX80U (which is being discussed in this thread)

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thats the kind of reply I was looking..thanks again..and that link you posted is helpfull too


have a great rest of the week.
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BB has the 42PX80u 1199.99 Looks to be instock now...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....c=abcat0100000

Panasonic EPP also has this for $927, shipping in 1-3 days. Anyone know why this model is so cheap? Granted, it's only 720p, but the CR ratio is 15000:1. Isn't this a great deal if you don't plan on playing 1080p sources?
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guys...dont worry. I said this before, and I stand behind it

You'll be happy...just relax

Ya sound like a bunch of whining washwomen

all will be good with the actual prices of these new Panasonics....their marketing strategy is to take a big bite out of LCD sales shift the momentum again over to Plasma
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guys...dont worry. I said this before, and I stand behind it

You'll be happy...just relax

Ya sound like a bunch of whining washwomen

all will be good with the actual prices of these new Panasonics....their marketing strategy is to take a big bite out of LCD sales shift the momentum again over to Plasma

I'm looking forward to it - a month ago I was ready to spring for a pz700u, but decided to wait and save some money for a stand (wanted to complete a look), as well as see what the 2008 prices were. Getting antsy, especially with current 2007 stock disappearing quickly. Then again I've been using a 32" Sony CRT (plain ole Trinitron) for 10 years now, what's a few more weeks right??!!
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guys...dont worry. I said this before, and I stand behind it

You'll be happy...just relax

Ya sound like a bunch of whining washwomen

all will be good with the actual prices of these new Panasonics....their marketing strategy is to take a big bite out of LCD sales shift the momentum again over to Plasma

I'm intermittently on this board, so I don't know your reputation - can you explain what your statements are based on? Is this speculation or do you have some actual reliable information?
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Unless someone has to be an early adopter, who cares about price at this point?
The market will determine how much it will drop and how quickly.
And if history is an indicator, we know it will not take too long.
I know I don't want to help a mfg. test a new model in my home and pay more for it besides.
Let others do the sacrifice so we can learn from their experience.
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DarkFudge, If you can't give us the "Street Prices" now from your inside connection can't you at least tell us when you think the "Street Prices" might go into effect. Thanks.
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Unless someone has to be an early adopter, who cares about price at this point?
The market will determine how much it will drop and how quickly.
And if history is an indicator, we know it will not take too long.
I know I don't want to help a mfg. test a new model in my home and pay more for it besides.
Let others do the sacrifice so we can learn from their experience.

I, for one, have been waiting and saving for a new model and this spring will be perfect, early price drops won't make that big a difference to me and not willing to wait 6 months or so for the later ones. . .so, this information would be nice to have.

Since I'm in the market for an 850 - I'm not really concerned about quality issues - not like this is new technology. I don't think buying a new model panasonic makes you any more of an early adopter than someone buying the latest Mac. It's not like the early days of HDTV.
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